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Drew Rosenhaus (RosenhausSports) on Twitter
That's great news.
Look forward to seeing the details of the contract.
Good news to wake up on.
New England Patriots (realpatriots) on Twitter
Pats will release details when the papers are signed
Which translates to: We will tell Mike Reiss what the details are when the papers are signed.
Reiss is on vaca i think. He's probably sitting on a beach logging on to twitter.
Football players on twitter is about the stupidest merging of sports and technology that I have seen.
Exciting news about Butler though.
Glad to see the news about Butler. I was about set to have a
tirade about how slow the Patriots were signing draft picks.
In the future there aren't going to be reporters really. All athletes, entertainers, public figures will communicate directly with the public.
4-year deal per Rosenhaus, which is the max.
AHH Nothin like great news after a breakfast burrito. Can't wait to see him on the field.
Details from PFT:
Details on Darius Butler deal | ProFootballTalk.com
Hopefully he can produce on both sides of the ball like he did in college, but i have Wilhite and Bodden starting at least on opening day...
Agent: Patriots lock up draft pick Butler - Reiss' Pieces - Boston.com
So that will mean that it will be a propaganda fest?
In some ways, journalism is one of the oldest professions. They used to be called witnesses. I think they'll always be around to report what was seen, to provide analysis, as long as the public thinks this is worthy.
But yeah, Twitter will put the gossip columns out of business.
Then again, what better way to gossip than twitter?
Is March 15, 2010 after the year ends for the 2009 salary season?
I believe it is.
Which means that that option bonus will count ENTIRELY for next year's salary cap.
Of course, next year there may be NO salary cap.
I may be wrong about this (I'm not Miguel after all) but I think the Patriots are already getting ahead of the no salary cap for 2010!
Miguel can answer this best but does this deal comply with the 25% rule??
I know, some little schmuck at a keyboard is asking if the Pats are in compliance with the CBA but inquiring minds want to know.....
The jump from year 2 to year 3 (2010 to 2011 ) appears to be about a 47% raise which IIRC is beyond the amount of increase allowed. They could always tweak it to comply by starting at 380K and going up 25% per year. Net result would cost them 80K in cap space this year but the ultimate payout (not adjusted for net present value) would be close.
It will be less propagandist and twisted without a middleman distorting interviews for his own take/bias.
I hope it gets hacks like Peter King out of the business.
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Good news, as I am hoping/thinking Butler may end up being the most valuable piece in this year's draft (though a NT departure could drastically change that).
On another note : I agree about this Twitter craze. It is changing a great deal - but I'm not sure it's for the better. Example : I hope no Pats do this Ocho-will-be-tweeting-during-games-crap stunt.
No, it is still prorated over the last 3 years of the deal.
You are misunderstanding the 25% rule. First of all, it takes into account cap hits, not base salaries. Secondly, it does not say rookie salaries can't increase more than 25% per year. It says cap hits in each year of rookie deals can't increase by more than 25% of the first year cap hit.
Here are the numbers in Butler's case. It was obviously engineered to exactly comply with the 25% rule. This does not take into account workout bonuses or the log bonus, which is a NLTBE.
FWIW, I had projected Butler's first-year cap at $715,000, so apparently I was a bit on the low side, if these #s are correct.
Miguel was a bit closer, at $735,000, but neither of us saw him not getting a signing bonus at all.
In any case, the deal is about $4.125M for four years.
Great news, the guys is going to be a stud. In fact, I was hoping the Pats would draft this guy because of his versatility. Also, I thought he was the best CB to come out of this draft. Darius Butler will be a steal.
Thanks. That makes a lot more sense. Help me clarify if you would, an option bonus/roster bonus gets applied to the cap in the year its paid while a signing bonus is prorated over the life of the contract??????
Any word yet on who will be getting released or were they one guy under the maximum on the roster?
I believe they are already four players under the limit.
They have 86 on the roster, so they'll only need to cut guys to sign their last 6 rookies - there are still 10 unsigned.
Well, roster and option bonuses are different; roster bonuses do not get prorated and option bonuses do. Signing bonus are paid at signing, so they get prorated over the life. Option bonuses are only prorated over the period after the option is exercised.
Awesome news! Bring on Chung's contract ASAP.
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