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  1. Turk

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    Sept. 18, 2006 | 8:24 p.m. ET

    Bush owes us an apology


    The President of the United States owes this country an apology.

    It will not be offered, of course.

    He does not realize its necessity.

    There are now none around him who would tell him or could.

    The last of them, it appears, was the very man whose letter provoked
    the President into the conduct, for which the apology is essential.

    An apology is this President's only hope of regaining the slightest
    measure of confidence, of what has been, for nearly two years, a clear
    majority of his people.

    Not "confidence" in his policies nor in his designs nor even in
    something as narrowly focused as which vision of torture shall prevail
    -- his, or that of the man who has sent him into apoplexy, Colin Powell.

    In a larger sense, the President needs to regain our confidence, that
    he has some basic understanding of what this country represents -- of
    what it must maintain if we are to defeat not only terrorists, but if
    we are also to defeat what is ever more increasingly apparent, as an
    attempt to re-define the way we live here, and what we mean, when we
    say the word "freedom."

    Because it is evident now that, if not its architect, this President
    intends to be the contractor, for this narrowing of the definition of
    freedom.

    The President revealed this last Friday, as he fairly spat through his
    teeth, words of unrestrained fury directed at the man who was once the
    very symbol of his administration, who was once an ambassador from
    this administration to its critics, as he had once been an ambassador
    from the military to its critics.

    The former Secretary of State, Mr. Powell, had written, simply and
    candidly and without anger, that "the world is beginning to doubt the
    moral basis of our fight against terrorism."

    This President's response included not merely what is apparently the
    Presidential equivalent of threatening to hold one's breath, but
    within it contained one particularly chilling phrase.

    "Mr. President, former Secretary of State Colin Powell says the world
    is beginning to doubt the moral basis of our fight against terrorism,"
    he was asked by a reporter. "If a former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
    of Staff and former secretary of state feels this way, don't you think
    that Americans and the rest of the world are beginning to wonder
    whether you're following a flawed strategy?"

    "If there's any comparison between the compassion and decency of the
    American people and the terrorist tactics of extremists, it's flawed
    logic," Bush said. "It's just -- I simply can't accept that. It's
    unacceptable to think that there's any kind of comparison between the
    behavior of the United States of America and the action of Islamic
    extremists who kill innocent women and children to achieve an objective.

    Of course it's acceptable to think that there's "any kind of comparison."

    And in this particular debate, it is not only acceptable, it is
    obviously necessary, even if Mr. Powell never made the comparison in
    his letter.

    Some will think that our actions at Abu Ghraib, or in Guantanamo, or
    in secret prisons in Eastern Europe, are all too comparable to the
    actions of the extremists.

    Some will think that there is no similarity, or, if there is one, it
    is to the slightest and most unavoidable of degrees.

    What all of us will agree on, is that we have the right -- we have the
    duty -- to think about the comparison.

    And, most importantly, that the other guy, whose opinion about this we
    cannot fathom, has exactly the same right as we do: to think -- and
    say -- what his mind and his heart and his conscience tell him, is right.

    All of us agree about that.

    Except, it seems, this President.

    With increasing rage, he and his administration have begun to tell us,
    we are not permitted to disagree with them, that we cannot be right,
    that Colin Powell cannot be right.

    And then there was that one, most awful phrase.

    In four simple words last Friday, the President brought into sharp
    focus what has been only vaguely clear these past five-and-a-half
    years - the way the terrain at night is perceptible only during an
    angry flash of lightning, and then, a second later, all again is dark.

    "It's unacceptable to think," he said.

    It is never unacceptable to think.

    And when a President says thinking is unacceptable, even on one topic,
    even in the heat of the moment, even in the turning of a phrase
    extracted from its context, he takes us toward a new and fearful path
    -- one heretofore the realm of science fiction authors and apocalyptic
    visionaries.

    That flash of lightning freezes at the distant horizon, and we can
    just make out a world in which authority can actually suggest it has
    become unacceptable to think.

    Thus the lightning flash reveals not merely a President we have
    already seen, the one who believes he has a monopoly on current truth.

    It now shows us a President who has decided that of all our
    commanders-in-chief, ever, he alone has had the knowledge necessary to
    alter and re-shape our inalienable rights.

    This is a frightening, and a dangerous, delusion, Mr. President.

    If Mr. Powell's letter -- cautionary, concerned, predominantly
    supportive -- can induce from you such wrath and such intolerance,
    what would you say were this statement to be shouted to you by a
    reporter, or written to you by a colleague?

    "Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from
    the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government
    becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to
    alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government."

    Those incendiary thoughts came, of course, from a prior holder of your
    job, Mr. Bush.

    They were the words of Thomas Jefferson.

    He put them in the Declaration of Independence.

    Mr. Bush, what would you say to something that anti-thetical to the
    status quo just now?

    Would you call it "unacceptable" for Jefferson to think such things,
    or to write them?

    Between your confidence in your infallibility, sir, and your
    demonizing of dissent, and now these rages better suited to a thwarted
    three-year old, you have left the unnerving sense of a White House
    coming unglued - a chilling suspicion that perhaps we have not seen
    the peak of the anger; that we can no longer forecast what next will
    be said to, or about, anyone who disagrees.

    Or what will next be done to them.

    On this newscast last Friday night, Constitiutional law Professor
    Jonathan Turley of George Washington University, suggested that at
    some point in the near future some of the "detainees" transferred from
    secret CIA cells to Guantanamo, will finally get to tell the Red Cross
    that they have indeed been tortured.

    Thus the debate over the Geneva Conventions, might not be about
    further interrogations of detainees, but about those already
    conducted, and the possible liability of the administration, for them.

    That, certainly, could explain Mr. Bush's fury.

    That, at this point, is speculative.

    But at least it provides an alternative possibility as to why the
    President's words were at such variance from the entire history of
    this country.

    For, there needs to be some other explanation, Mr. Bush, than that you
    truly believe we should live in a United States of America in which a
    thought is unacceptable.

    There needs to be a delegation of responsible leaders -- Republicans
    or otherwise -- who can sit you down as Barry Goldwater and Hugh Scott
    once sat Richard Nixon down - and explain the reality of the situation
    you have created.

    There needs to be an apology from the President of the United States.

    And more than one.

    But, Mr. Bush, the others -- for warnings unheeded five years ago, for
    war unjustified four years ago, for battle unprepared three years ago
    -- they are not weighted with the urgency and necessity of this one.

    We must know that, to you, thought with which you disagree -- and even
    voice with which you disagree and even action with which you disagree
    -- are still sacrosanct to you.

    The philosopher Voltaire once insisted to another author, "I detest
    what you write, but I would give my life to make it possible for you
    to continue to write." Since the nation's birth, Mr. Bush, we have
    misquoted and even embellished that statement, but we have served
    ourselves well, by subscribing to its essence.

    Oddly, there are other words of Voltaire's that are more pertinent
    still, just now.



    "Think for yourselves," he wrote, "and let others enjoy the privilege
    to do so, too."

    Apologize, sir, for even hinting at an America where a few have that
    privilege to think and the rest of us get yelled at by the President.

    Anything else, Mr. Bush, is truly unacceptable.


    Keith Olbermann
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    Well, that settles it, since Keith Olbermann says it then I guess it needs to happen.


    Maybe ole Keith should stick to sports.
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    I honestly can't stand Keith Odorman. Sorry, but she's the Ann Coulter of the left. I can't stand Ann Coulter for those of you who do not know. She's a bumbling idiot. She's kinda hot for a politcal person, but she's still annoying. Odorman on the other hand is a moron lefty who has to be related to Bill Maher. Has to be. Everytime I watch is aweful "countdown", and it is aweful as he is far from being as funny as he thinks he is, all he does is throw jabs at anything and everything GW. Picture NEM doing the news. Matter of fact I watched him for 10 minutes last night. Honestly, 10 minutes too long. I like how the guy personally bashes O'Reilly cuz he smokes him in the ratings. What a child.

    BTW, saw Brian Ross's ABC report on CIA torture, quite interesting.

    Here is the link to the interview where he talks about his investigation into CIA torture. I'm against physical abuse, no acceptions. I do support coercive means of interogation. Similar to what cops might do, or along the lines of loud music, sleep deprivation, cold rooms, etc...

    Anyow, check out the interview.

    http://www.foxnews.com/video2/playe...iew: Brian Ross&acc&US&-1&col&undefined&&&new
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    The Muslims Owe Us An Apology
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    Odorman is the Left Wings Ann Coulter but he will never be as famous or successful.

    The Amazon Jungle people know who Annie is, they read her books in their huts at night.
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    I love it. He's right on. This is second only to his special comment on Rumsfeld about two weeks ago where he asks (paraphrased) "in what country were you raised, that you feel you have a right to tell others who disagree with you to go to hell...that you and you alone have all the right answers"

    Olbermann is great but he includes way too much fluff in his show (for the soccer mom crowd I presume).
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    I am no fan of Rumsfeld but when he told those people to "go to hell" he was using his freedom of speech, something Odorman thinks is reserved for Liberal Bush Haters.

    To a Sore Losing Liberal Hater freedom of speech all depends on who is giving the speech.
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    Don't you just love the posters from the right having nothing to say about the content, and yet having no problem crucifying the author?
    Are we so blind in our eagerness to follow this man that even Colin Powell's honest criticism is brushed off as unacceptable bs?
    WTF is Bush or anyone else for that matter to tell another American, especially with Powell's credentials, that what he thinks is "unacceptable"?
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    The LEFTY'S do it all the time to Hannity, Limbaugh, Coulter, O'Reilly, Bush and Harry Boy.
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    After reading this tripe it no wonder Olbermann's ratings are lower than a Chuck Norris infomercial.
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    I watch just about everything. But a couple shows I cannot watch, and for varying reasons are Gretta Van something, and Odorman. Oderman is a bumbling idiot. Honestly, when I watch him I always feel like yelling at the TV "speak up you mummbling mess". Seriously, he sounds like a total tard. Truly the Ann Coulter of the left. Ann Coulter adds NOTHING to any show, except for something to look at. She makes sense about 1.2% of the time, and usually thats only because she's commented on someone elses point. Oderman is an idiot though. I honestly try to watch, but he's so stupid I can't. It's no wonder his ratings are so aweful, he sucks. Maybe the two of them should elope.
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    Olberman can go piss up a flagpole as far as i am concerned.
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    Real World, now your getting it, good for you, (YOUR RANTING) great, these Left Wing Sore Losers hate to be slapped around with the truth and they hate a Patriotic Flag Waver that yells at them and showers them with common sense and "AMERICANISM" the fools love America's Enemy's, their HATRED and JEALOUSY for GW Bush consumes them.
    They will get their a$ses kicked again in November, Hannity & Colmes did a show at a College last night and eveytime Hannity opened his mouth he got a standing ovation, one of those dip sh!t Hollywood Liberals, Morgan Fairchild was on the show and whenever the crowd yelled and applauded Hannity she looked like someone had slapped her face, she was shocked.
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    ALSO:
    Greta Van Sh!tstren and Rita Cosby of MSNBC are popular among the Crowd that wears rings in their noses and thinks Anna Nica$shole Smith and Paris Hilton are "Superstars", they all voted for Kerry/Gore.

    Whenever I Look at Greta or Cosby's face all I can think of is Scott Peterson.

    They are two "Scum Reporters" they wallow in Sh!t.
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    My issue with Gretta has nothing to do with her personally. I just never find her show very appealling. She's a pretty good host and all, just that she doesn't have much appeal in my eyes. Plus, she's on at 10pm, and I've usually had enough of the news by that time. As for Oderman and Coulter, total retards. I only rant when someone annoys me to no extent. Those two, and possibly Tucker Carlson (i really can't watch him at all) are the ménage à trois of idioticy.

    Whats funny is how lefties and righties will blindly support each regardless of the issue. Gerry Callahan on EEI loves everything GOP/Coulter. He is so my brother is funny. My brother is an Ex-Army Airborne Right wing extremist.
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