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Bush Flip Flops all over the place regarding singing of Spanish National Anthem...

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  1. DarrylS

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    The great decider decided this week that the National Anthem should be sung in English, but when he was campaigning in 2000 it was part of the regular dog and pony show...guess it is ok to court votes during an election, but not ok after the election when it goes against popular opinion...I am confused isn't this Mr. Decisive, the elected President who was going to unite us all????
    http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2006/030506Anthem.htm
    Apparently, Secada singing the anthem in Spanish was a regular feature of the Bush campaign. From the 8/3/00 Miami Herald:
    The nominee, his wife Laura, erstwhile rival John McCain and his wife Cindy joined Bush on a platform where children sang the national anthem - in “Spanglish,†Secada explained.

    At his inaugaration in 2001 it was sung again:

    http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/02/national-anthem-sung-in-spanish-at-first-bush-inaugural/
    From Cox News Service, 1/18/01:
    The opening ceremony reflected that sentiment. A racially diverse string of famous and once famous performers entertained Bush, soon-to-be First Lady Laura Bush, Vice President-elect Richard B. Cheney and his wife, Lynne, who watched on stage from a special viewing area.
    Pop star Jon Secada sang the national anthem in English and Spanish.

    Don't forget folks the Spanish Version was translated in 1919 and appears on the State Dept web site, for those who do not know the words in Spanish:

    http://usinfo.state.gov/esp/home/topics/us_society_values/national_symbols/anthem_spanish.html
    Himno nacional - La Bandera de Estrellas

    There is a trend here, we need to protect Iraq from the brutal dictator and save the Iraqi people, but ignore Sudan...
    The UN is irrelevant and inneffective to stop Suddam Hussein, but is viable to help Sudan..

    This party is fast becoming the party of situational ethics and inconsistency, flip flopping their way into obscurity....
     
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    Wow, good find. This deserves a bump to the top.
     
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    How do you go from the National anthem to Sudan? What would the connection be?
     
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    America should ask Germany, France, Spain, Cuba, China, N Korea, and Russia to help Sudan, we are busy in Iraq.

    Why do the "Kooks" in America want us to help Sudan but not Iraq, would the "Kooks" in America support Bush if he invaded Sudan?

    Would the "Kooks" in America support Bush if he found a cure for Cancer?

    :bricks:
     
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    And as a more on-topic question, why did Bush say it wasn't OK to sing the national anthem in Spanish, when it was done at his own campaign appearances. I want to hear the neocons admit hypocracy here.
     
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    I remember being in south fl. at the time bush was running in 2000, he was heavily courting the spanish vote.... And was giving a very supportive message to vincente fox.. Good message for the illegals, Just think about how many ilegals poured into this country since his election...
     
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    It should not be supported by the government in anyway shape or form. The national language is english. He was wrong for doing that! And anyone who is for the government officially supporting a spanish version of the National Anthem is wrong as well!
     
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    It's on the State Dept website, and was written in the early part of the century. It's still the AMERICAN National Anthem, being in another language just lets other people understand it. Besides - what a group of artists wants to do with a song in the public domain is their business, I don't see why politicians even felt the need to comment on it.
     
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    I don't care what civilians do with it but the government should not officially recognize it in any other language.

    This thread shows the hatred for this president by the left. This thread serves no other purpose then to try and retaliate on the behalf of Kerry by saying Bush is a flip flopper. The sad part is he had to do it with such a worthless point, the National Anthem in Spanish.
     
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    Ok, first things first - the left (among other people - like myself) DO hate our current President. I'm not ashamed of hating the President, he brought it on himself.

    Second, you can't say that the President isn't being an opportunist here. When he needs the Spanish vote he sings in Spanish, but when he needs the conservative vote it becomes wrong?
     
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    Because he is a politicain, politicians do those things, do you remember Clinton carrying his little Bible around every sunday morning for the Camera's, America hasn't seen that Bible since the day he left office.

    Do you really think Billy Blue Dress reads the Holy Bible :singing: :singing:
     
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    no, The year is 2006, and these are major problems were dealing with now...I did'nt suffer the economic disadvantages in 98, right now is one fugged up time, but if it makes you feel better, by all means live in the past... Meanwhile someone check the toilet cuz america is getting is going down the drain fast.. America is becoming a thing of the past
     
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    Whatever, your whole argument is always based on "What Clinton did was bad & wrong, but it's an excuse for Bush to do the same."

    If we're going to try and preempt every political critisism with "Well, he's a politician, so get used to it" we might as well not have a political forum.
     
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    No I am just saying that he is stretching the significance of this, this isn't flip flopping on a national security issue. It is about what language the National Anthem is in.
     
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    You sure like to!

    Maybe you should keep up with the times instead of blaming others for your misfortune, the only person who controls your life is you. Not the President, mot any republican or democrat, not your mommy or daddy at this point.
     
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    That's not true, ya know. There's such a thing as circumstance.
     
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    #37 Jersey

    Sorry, I don't. Maybe you should try not feeling sorry for yourself.
     
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    No question you shouldn't feel sorry for yourself - it never helps the situation, but sometimes you can do everything right and still have things come out wrong, or never have an opportunity to really try because a situation bigger than yourself came down on you.

    As much as we think that we and only we control our destiny, our destiny is bigger than that. It's convenient to think that way, because people should try their hardest, but sometimes you end up dead earlier than you though you would anyway.
     
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    According to Newsmax..Laura Bush doesn't mind if it is sung in Spanish...

    http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/5/3/212450.shtml?s=ic

    Anthem in Spanish Doesn't Faze First Lady

    Laura Bush has a knack for making it known when she doesn't agree with her husband. But on the subject of belting out "The Star-Spangled Banner" in Spanish, it's not clear whether the first lady is in President Bush's camp or not.

    A Spanish-language version of the national anthem, called "Nuestro Himno," which means "Our Anthem," debuted last week. It features artists such as Wyclef Jean, Carlos Ponce and Olga Tanon and has stirred controversy because it rewrites some of the English version.
     
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    All these complaints you hear from the left today in America boils down to one thing, Bush Won, Gore/Kerry Lost. The left wing sore losing crybabys will never get over it, they still can't believe it.

    They will have another shot at it though in 2008, if they should lose again many of them will have to be commited to Institutions.

    NO PRESIDENT WALKS ON WATER.
     

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