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Bush administration set to withdraw all troops from Iraqi cities by June 30th

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    Have to believe that this election has been a catalyst for this action..
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    Um, doesn't anybody want to point out this is great news? I think the catalyst for this is most likely that after December 31st we have no UN sanctioned right to be there, so we'd better have an agreement in place with the Iraqi government.

    Wes, finally posting some good news, looks like maybe you've turned a corner! :D
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    Yeah how 'bout it Wes? I've been waiting for you to post Japan's gold medal victory over the US in Softball this morning. Must have been great news for you to wake up with!;)
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    Does this mean we can finnally remove the duct tape and plastic from our houses, that tom ridge reccomended to protect our lives from chem-bio attacks???????????????????
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    Will McCain be the last man standing against a timetable?

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/a...-security-deal/

    BAGHDAD (AP) U.S. and Iraqi negotiators have finished a draft agreement that would see American troops removed from Iraqi cities by June 30, an Iraqi official said Wednesday. But the draft has not been approved by the Cabinet and some members have expressed opposition. The official, who was involved in the protracted negotiations, said the agreement calls for U.S. troops to fully leave the country by the end of 2011. Although Iraqi negotiators have signed off on the draft, another official close to Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said the country's political leadership objected to parts of the text, including the immunity provision.

    President Bush had long refused to accept any timetable for bringing U.S. troops home. Last month, however, he and al-Maliki agreed to set a "general time horizon" for ending the U.S. mission. Bush's shift to a timeline was seen as a move to speed agreement on the security pact.
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    Wait youare without a job and you have a house, and we've paying for your med bills with out tax money???

    WOW what a country.
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    I have an apartment!
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    Oh You said a house in your post.


    BTW I am glad we are winning and can start the process of getting our troops out of there.
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    apt.,house,domocile,tent,shelter, is a home/house
    Iwas told by neocons/pf13 that setting atimeline for troop witdrawall is bad policy, what brand of flipflops are you wearing? ? the fox factor flipflops:D
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    The time line being discuss is contingent on the progress on the ground, not a time set in stone as the lefties had wanted. I would also note that the time table is being set after Al Queda has been routed and AFTER the IRAQI Army is in a position to take the ead (as they are now doing) in operations asainst the terrorist.

    Glad to clear that up for you.
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    You're half right. There is nothing to "win" in Iraq. Getting our troops out will save our troops, and that's a good thing. It's another story for Iraqis, though. There isn't much "winning" in their future, I'd be willing to bet...:(


    Suicide Bombings in Iraq, 2008

    January 1: A suicide bomber kills more than 30 people and injures 32 in an attack in Baghdad. The blast is targeted at mourners at the funeral of a Shia army officer, Nabil Hussein Jassim, who had himself been killed by a car bombing in central Baghdad three days earlier.

    January 7: A double bombing in Baghdad kills at least 14 people, including Riyadh Samarrai, leader of the US-backed Adhamiya Awakening group, which fights al-Qaeda in Sunni areas of the city.

    January 16: A female suicide bomber blows herself up near a Shia mosque in the town of Khan Bani Saad Diyala, killing 11 others. Eighteen people are wounded in the attack, near a market in the town, south of Baqubah in the Diyala Governorate.

    A January 24 suicide bomber kills a high-ranking police chief and two other police officers in Mosul at the site of an explosion that had killed at least 34 people and wounded at least 217 the day before. Brigadier General Salah Mohammed al-Jubouri, the director of police for Ninawa Governorate, was inspecting the scene of Wednesday's blast when gunmen ambushed his convoy.

    February 1: Two bombs explode in Baghdad animal markets killing 99 people and wounding 200. The Iraqi government claims that the bombs were carried by women and detonated remotely.

    February 24: A leader of a Sunni Awakening Council group, Sheikh Ibrahim Mutayri al-Mohammedi, is killed in a suicide bombing in Falluja.

    February 25: A man in a wheelchair blew himself up in a northern Iraqi police station, killing three National Police officers, including a commander.[733]

    March 3: A pair of car bombings targeting Iraqi security forces killed at least 18 people and wounded dozens in Baghdad.

    March 6: Fifty-three people were killed and 125 were wounded in two bomb attacks in a Baghdad commercial district.

    March 17: A female suicide bomber apparently targeting Shiite worshippers killed at least 33 people and wounded at least 50 in Karbala.

    March 19: In Baquba, five people were killed and 16 wounded when a suicide bomber detonated his explosives belt in a public market. Another suicide bomb wounded 11 Iraqi soldiers and 3 civilians in Mosul.

    March 22: A roadside bomb blast struck an Iraqi police patrol in Kirkuk, killing a civilian and wounding nine people.

    March 23: 13 Iraqi soldiers were killed by a suicide bomber who drove a fuel tanker into an army base in Mosul and at least 40 people were injured.

    March 27: A car bomb explosion killed three people and wounded five others near a police patrol in central Baghdad.

    March 29: A car bomb explosion killed three people and wounded five others near a police patrol in central Baghdad.

    March 31: A suicide car bomber killed 5 US backed Sunni fighters at a checkpoint in Siniya, at least eight other people were injured.

    April 3: A suicide bomber attacked a checkpoint near Mosul, killing 7 people and wounding 12 (the US military claims 5 killed and 19 injured).

    April 4: A suicide bomber killed at least 15 people in an attack on on the funeral for a Sunni policeman in the province of Diyala, in the town of Saadiyah.

    April 11: Suicide bombings killed at least four people -- three of them police. The first bombing was in Ramadi, the provincial capital of the predominantly Sunni Anbar province. At least three national police officers were killed.
    The second attack took place at a checkpoint about 20 km north of Baiji, the bomber and one other person a local Awakening Council were killed. Also, at least three people were killed in a mortar attack on Baghdad's Palestine Hotel.

    April 14: Three people died in the nearby city of Tal Afar when a suicide attacker blew himself up at an Iraqi soldier's funeral.

    April 15: A wave of bombings blamed on Al-Qaeda in Iraq-jihadists shook Baghdad, Baquba, Ramadi and Mosul, killing at least 60 people. Nonetheless, the overall violence in Baquba has decreased by 80 percent since June 2007.
    In Baquba, as many as 53 people were killed and at least 70 more were wounded during a car bombing near the courthouse.
    A suicide bomber killed 13 people and injured 20 more outside a kebab restaurant in Ramadi.
    Five policemen were killed and four more were wounded during a suicide bombing at a checkpoint in the Hamidhiya area of Ramadi.
    In Mosul, a double car bombing killed three people and wounded at least 16 people.
    In Baghdad, a car bomb targeting a police patrol killed four people and wounded 15 in a central neighborhood.

    April 17: A suicide bomber killed at least 15 people and wounded many others in a suicide attack on a crowd of mourners in Baquba, during the funeral of two members of a local group who had died fighting al-Qaeda in Iraq militants.

    April 18, 2008: A suicide bomber attacked a U.S. military patrol near Tikrit killing one soldier.

    April 21, 2008: A female suicide bomber attacked a U.S.-allied militia post, killing four people and wounding five others in Baquba.

    April 22: A female suicide bomber killed six people and wounded a dozen others when she blew herself up north of Baghdad according to Iraqi police. A suicide car bomber at a checkpoint near Ramadi killed two U.S. Marines and wounded three more. Two policemen and 24 civilians were also wounded. A second car bombing, this one at a police station in the city, wounded 20 people, including women and policemen. In Jalawla, a female suicide bomber killed eight people and wounded 17 at a police station.

    April 26: A series of co-ordinated bomb attacks has killed at least seven people and injured more than 20 in the northern Iraqi city of Mosul.

    April 29: At least 9 people were killed and were 23 wounded in a bomb attack in central Baghdad, Iraqi police say.

    May 1: At least 35 people have been killed in a double suicide bombing in the Iraqi province of Diyala, officials say. At least 76 other people are said to have been injured.

    May 14: A suicide bomber killed 20 people and wounded dozens more when he blew himself up at a funeral west of Baghdad on Wednesday, there was no claim for responsibility but Iraqi police suspect al-Qaeda in Iraq.[758] A teen aged girl blew herself up outside an Iraqi army post south of Baghdad on Wednesday, killing one soldier, the U.S. military said.

    May 16: A car bomb which struck an Iraqi police station in Fallujah injured four Iraqi police officers.

    May 17: A female suicide bomber targeted a US-backed militia office in Baquba, killing one woman and wounding 16.

    May 26: A suicide bomber on a motorcycle struck a checkpoint manned by Iraqi police and US-backed Sunni millita, killing four people including a policeman, two awakening council guards and a civilian.

    May 27: A car bombing in the city of Talafer, some 70 km west of Mosul, killed 4 people and injured 46.

    May 29: A suicide bomber killed 14 police recruits and two policemen in northern Iraq.[764] 19 others were killed in 2 other suicide bombings that day.

    June 1: At least two people were killed and five others wounded in a car bomb explosion at a parking lot near the Iranian embassy in central Baghdad.

    June 2: A suicide bomber killed at least five policemen and four civilians in the northern Iraqi city of Mosul and wounded 46.

    June 4: A suicide bomber drove a truck towards the house of police Brigadier-General Nadhim Taeih, in northern Baghdad, killing at least 13 people and wounding 50.

    June 7: A suicide car bomb and another car packed with explosives targeted Iraqi police patrols Saturday on opposite sides of Baghdad, killing at least six people.

    June 8: A vehicle driven by a suicide bomber blew up near a patrol base in Iraq killing one US-soldier, wounding 18 others in Baghdad.

    July 28: Three suicide bombers struck a Shiite pilgrimage in Baghdad and a Kurdish protest rally in northern Iraq, killing at least 57 people and wounding nearly 300.

    ...Call that winning?:confused:
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    As opposed to the mass graves and tortue room =s under Saddam, and the loss of popularity of Al Queda across the Muslim world... YES. We have wiped out a huge number of terrorist who aren't availiable to attack civilians in the US.
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    It was a rhetorical question. I understand you think that is winning.

    So lemme get this straight (I know we go round and round on this, but it's fun, isn't it?):
    Trading mass graves and a torture room for almost daily carnage by suicide bombers, rampant unemployment of dangerous young men, return to Sharia Law and oppression of women, sectarian and ethnic conflict, etc, etc...= winning. Also, enough terrorists are all gone so we have made progress on that front, and they won't be replaced any time soon.

    Man, you have a strange definition of "win".
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    The number of casualities is down a lot this year. It is tragic whenever the terrosit savages murder innocent people. This is why the terror acum must be defeated so there mass murder is stopped.

    N Chamberlin didn't prevent the death camps by negotating with killers. Evil must be confronted it doesn't go away by itself.
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    Evil? Oh, right...the religion thing, again...that's why we're in Iraq...got it.

    And WTF does Neville Chamberlain and Nazi death camps have to do with the US and Iraq?
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    It is an example of what happens when Evil is not confronted. Just one of many.

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