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  1. MrBigglesWorth

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    So is this the year Brushi gets to go back to his old position since he's been playing out of position the past two seasons since ted johnson retired.

    Will he get moved out of the spot where he has to take on the strong side and go back to the other ILB spot where he had his probowl caliber season?

    Will Thomas take over that spot on early downs where the run is an option or will they draft a run stopping ILB?
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    GIven Thomas' coverage ability I expect Bru to remain where he was last year and Thomas to play the spot Bru played with TJ.
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    Nah, I think Thomas is just a Ted Johnson and Roman Phifer rolled into one, with the ability to play both spots depending on the down.
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    from what i saw he has no gas left in the tank. i'd take soon to be 40 jr seau coming off injury before i'd take bruschi. teddy was no where to be found in the playoff loss to the colts, especially on the all important TD run up the middle to his side on the colts game winning drive
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    Bingo. Thats the way I see it too.
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    you're an idiot

    get lost troll
    you are just bitter we signed AD and your underacheiving team still sucks.
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    that was a run blitz that hit the wrong gaps. fair to say the entire defense was gassed at that point. we can all say he has trouble in coverage like al the lb's
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    Brushi was playing his old position until Seau went down. Then he had to move back over. If Vrabel is lined up inside, then Bruschi will be on the strong side, with Vrabel on the weak side. However, we could see Thomas lined up on the strong side with Bruschi on the weak and Vrabel on the edge.
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    so the question is..... is this the most effective way to use AD? or would it benefit the pats to try to find someone in th draft who can play the strong ILB or bring back Seau?
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    Bingo, we have bingo!
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    Very cliche but I think we will see a rotation at all the LB positions to exploit their flexibility.

    - OLB Rotation would include Thomas, Colvin & Vrabel
    - ILB Rotation would include Bruschi, Vrabel, Thomas, YET TO BE DETERMINED ILB, and a little bit of Alexander on some 3rd downs

    Goal is to keep 3 of the 4 top LBs on the field for most snaps.
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    ummm ok, then where was he the rest of the plays? he had a paltry 4 tackles and 1 assist. pathetic performance from an inside linebacker against a team that consistently ran up the middle.

    if you want to "crown his ass" for games he played 5 years ago, then go ahead. me? i want to win this year
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    who says I'm crowning him jabronie? who would you pay in place of bruschi? or would you just get rid of him altogether? do you think he has any value?
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    get rid of him altogether. use one of the 2 1st rounders to pick up an ILB like willis. rookie would be fine playing alongside talented vets vrabel, colvin and thomas
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    who the hell is "AD?" uhh, i think you mean "AT." and who's the "idiot" now?

    :p
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    so that means you need to move vrabel back to the inside.

    i imagine you wouldn't want thomas or a rookie calling the defensive signals in their first years?
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    you missed the earlier threads, that's what Adalius goes by.
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    depends who it is. i tend to think defensive signal calling isn't too difficult. reality is most defensive players make calls for themselves by keying on their man. but you could always bring back seau if you think it's that hard. for those paying attention he totally outplayed bruschi prior to getting hurt.
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    I tend to think you have no idea how complex this defense is. Bruschi is the signal caller, Vrabel has the smarts to do it. It takes years to call defensive plays from the LB position in BB's defense. Regardless of how athletic AD is, we don't want him calling the signals right away.
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    that is a very ridiculous thing to say that playcalling isn't too difficult. what happens if players go in motion or totally shift?

    there are so many adjustments, reads, switching spots and the consensus in the league is that BB defense is complicated.
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    Nice try Troll

    bummer about your sucky team.
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    I am going to say you are the idiot. 1st AD stands for All Day which is Thomas' nickname and 2nd you think that our leading tackler last year is worth nothing. Bruschi is the heart and soul of this team and played like a warior last year with a cast on the entire season. yes I would like seau back but he would be the 5th best on our team. What is your grudge with Bruschi, all he has done to help this team be what it is and you just throw him aside like garbage.
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    it's like seymour said: "I never saw a scheme make a tackle." On the field - especially on defense where it's about reacting to what's in front of you - key thing is having the players on the field that can make the plays. doesn't mean diddly pooh to have a player in position if he can't make the play. no better example of that than bruschi's pitiful performance last season.

    it's comforting that coach bellicheck is a lot smarter than a lot of the fans on this board and routinely dumps non-performing vets like milloy, bledsoe, antoine smith, who's better days are in the past and who's presence on the team would be a liability. bruschi could see his number was up next at year end when he spoke of possible retirement. and if he's such team guy, retire and not create problems is exactly what he'd do right now.
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    Yes, I hope Brsuchi can move back to his position. He moved because Seau didn't know the Defense and was only a run down LB. But Teddy also played the entire year one handed. He couldn't catch thing with hsi arm in a cast, so his usual 3 -4 INTs were reduced to a lucky one that just caromed into his arms on a a Hail Mary. Many a runner got by him since he couldn't wrap up.

    This year he will be playing in his old position and Vrabel will have played the correct inside position from training camp, Vrabel is bigger and has the heft to be the strong running ILB, with just the same size as TJ.

    I still hope the Pats resign TBC as the third OLB. Then Tedy, Vrabel, Seau? and a Willis/Posluzny/Harris makes a pretty good ILB corps, too.
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    Adalius Thomas is known as "AD," not "AT."

    Get a clue before posting.
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    Per NFL.com's dept chart for the Ravens, AD's "base" position would be OLB alongside Seymour.
    http://www.nfl.com/teams/depthcharts/BAL

    Before "we" put together the Pats' depth chart, we may want to allow the Training Camp competition to help delineate each player's strengths and weaknesses and let that delegate where they best fit.
    - Presently, there are two of the four top LBs who could play inside or outside, and the other two can play either side as needed.
    - Then there are the three developmental players Alexander, Woods, and Mays. That leaves us with 7 LBs.
    - Gardner is still rehabbing his leg and if healthy is probably re-signed.
    - Davis is rehabbing.
    - Izzo seems unlikely to want to go anywhere else until the Pats decline to bring him back.

    I've also heard there is a draft coming up. Between the draft, possible trades, and the rest of Free Agency, this team is going to have around 15 linebackers in camp. I'd be mildly surprised if BB had anyone's position written in anything but grease pencil - not to mention the creative ideas he, Pees, and Patricia are going to be developing to take advantage of AD and Vrabel as multi-position terrors.
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    My jaw dropped when I read this. This has to be the dumbest statement I've ever come across - anywhere.

    With this admission, we now know for certain he's a couch potato head coach!

    Contact Ian and see if he can't change your handle to Mr. Potato Head.
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    i'll take seymour over you any day when it comes to assessing how defenses really function

    it's like seymour said: "I never saw a scheme make a tackle." On the field - especially on defense where it's about reacting to what's in front of you - key thing is having the players on the field that can make the plays. doesn't mean diddly pooh to have a player in position if he can't make the play. no better example of that than bruschi's pitiful performance last season.

    the fact that you think on the field defensive signal calling is so difficult tells me you have never stepped foot on the field and actually played the game. these guys have gone through literally 1,000's of drills in practise and they know what to do when they see it. the signal call by the MLB is relatively simple selection of coverage packages with only a few options. how complex do you really think it can be when the defense has literally seconds to react to what the offense is doing? if they ran around in a million formations filling their heads with a million thoughts they'd have no time to actually make a play.

    here's $1, now go bye a clue.
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    So you're saying these guys are dumb oxes who get to where they are through countless and endless repetitions?

    Do you think Seymour is out there call the plays for the defense as the line up?

    Ever heard of an audible? Happens on the defensive side of the ball, too. Lots of times.

    Ever seen a defense shift as the offense (1) shifts, or (2) responds to a QB audible? Ever heard Bruschi out there yelling in response to Peyton Manning?

    Yeah, I've played football before, when I was young. Think all these guys are flying around the field doing what they want, rather than what the coaches want?

    Ever watch a football game?

    Here's you dollar back. I don't need it, and I most assuredly don't need "clues" from you!

    Have a nice day, Mr. Potato Head....
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