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Bruschi to play in week 1...I don't like it

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  1. jaychamp

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    Sorry if this was posted before, but I looked and didn't see anything.

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    After doing some research I found that the scaphoid bone can take anywhere from 6-15 to fully heal and it is indeed career threatning. Why is there any rush to get him back and risk losing him for the year or his career? I know, I should trust his doctors but they aren't always right and I worry for Tedy.
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    I felt the same for Rodney...
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    No offense, but I'd rather trust doctors who deal with those injuries on a daily basis over 5 minutes of scaphoid research you did. Again, no offense.
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    If it is risking further damage, he won't play. And if it isn't he'll play.
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    So you're suggesting we should take your word for it? If we can't trust his doctors, we most certainly can't trust your research. I think the doctors treating him have a little bit more credibility than all of us here combined.
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    We had the same issue last year after his stroke. Bruschi is NOT going to endanger his career by coming back too soon.
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    who really cares if you like it or not? the only opinion that matters are the doctors.
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    I'm missing something here. Czarnecki talked to his doctors?
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    From what I've read, nope.
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    Then where do we get "doctors say it's OK to play after 4 weeks"?

    Edit: original poster said something about doctors.

    Whoever did the surgery or whatever, I haven't read a doctors statement.
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    I don't know, you're going to have to ask Czarnecki.
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    Tedy will play with a cast. On playing with a cast, Steve Nelson said, "It was a club. It was a weapon. I kept it on two weeks longer than I was supposed to."
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    When you have this injury you can't grasp things without pain.

    Grasping a jersey would be how he could reinjure it.

    If he has a cast that covers his fingers that would protect him, but he would be playing one handed.
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    He's probably just quoting what Bruschi said right after it happened.:rolleyes:
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    Read he would play with a cast. I'm sure he'll cope. What was your point?
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    keyword here ="according to" some person...come on now..we all know how the pats handle injury news ..you seriously think someone knows the information before the wednesday of that game when the injury report comes out ?
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    Where did you read it? I guess that's my point.

    Actually it comes from the same Fox writer. No sources mentioned.

    I guess if you believe everything you read, you'll believe.............everything.
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    I'm still sticking to the Oct. home game against Miami.
    That's just a guess....hopefully sooner
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    I definitely don't want Tedy to rush it, I have no problem with him missing Week 1 & 2, but I do hope he will be back in time for Week 4, but if not, that'd be okay too.
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    Pretty much .......if I trust the source.
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    I'm sorry I ever posted this. I realize now, that if this is true, doctor's never make mistakes.
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    Of course doctors can be wrong - but it's nutty to think that someone who's examined him and is trained to know what the injury can withstand would know less than you or me.
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    And you don;t think if it was that seriious he would be getting many opinions and not just one???? One doctor may be wrong..but a few TOTALLY missing it...I think would be far from true. Yes...all will be fine with Tedy...
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    You're asking the wrong person, if he's allowed on the field I'm 100% fine with it. I was just acknowledging that doctors can, indeed, be wrong. Tedy is too important to the team long term this year to risk a season ender for 2-3 games so they must be VERY confident this will be fine . . . and, therefore, I am too.
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    Screw the aspirin, this entire board needs a handful of midol.
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    I speculated that he had a scaphoid fracture way back on on this thread, and was excoriated for it:

    http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showpost.php?p=143591&postcount=12

    When I had a scaphoid fracture, the doctor told me that the problem with scaphoids is that the blood supply to the bone is small and tenuous. This is the source of the wide variability in recovery times. Bad blood flow makes for long recovery times. A blood vessel is much more likely to be sheared in a displaced fracture. So the key thing to know in assessing how bad Tedys injury was is to know whether it was displaced or not.

    I'm guessing that it wasn't a displaced fracture, as it took a while to diagnose (non-displaced scaphoids are difficult to diagnose from regular xrays - usually you need a bone scan or MRI, because the bone is 3D). Hopefully the screw was put in only to insure that the fracture didn't become displaced.

    Here's to Tedy being back (cast or no cast) on Game 1.

    R
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    Same thing here Dude. I suffered a displaced Scaphoid fracture racing dirtbikes 14 years ago. When 3 Ortho surgeons appeared on a Sunday evening to argue over who got to perform the "classic Scaphoid fracture surgery", I knew I was in trouble!

    Bottomline is the Scaphoid is one of the worst bones you can break because of it's tenuous blood supply. The blood supply must be recreated for the bone to heal and if the bone doesn't heal, the wrist must be fused. I can't see a Doctor allowing the wrist to be used as a "Club" under such circumstances.

    After my surgery which required drilling the bone and inserting pins from the back of the wrist through the thumb, the Docs told me it would require 4-6 weeks in a cast. The cast actually came off at the 17 week mark.

    Hopefully medical advances have shortened the healing process. I was stunned to see that T.O. played in the Superbowl and that Big Ben is already playing football after such bad injuries. Just don't be surprised if it takes longer than the original optimistic reports.
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    I had the same injury, although not broken, and it takes a while until you can even do a push-up.

    But not matter what anyone speculates, Belichick will hold back Bruschi until the time is right. We have enough depth with Seau and others to play a few games without Bruschi.

    Unlike a lot of us fans, Belichick will make sure that Bruschi doesn't rush back, unless it is okay, because Belichick is not stupid enough to risk a star player over returning a couple weeks too soon.

    So CHILL, people! ;)

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