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  1. Harry Boy

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    Mr President
    You claimed you were an "anti war president" you LIED

    OAKLAND, Maine -- Flags in Maine are flying at half-staff Thursday in honor of a soldier from the state who was killed in combat in Afghanistan.

    Pfc. Jordan Brochu is also being honored with a memorial service in celebration of his life.

    Brochu died Aug. 31 from wounds suffered in an improvised explosive device attack. Brochu moved to Maine while he was in high school, and his parents live in Oakland outside of Waterville.
    Maine Soldier Killed In Afghanistan To Be Laid To Rest - Portland News Story - WMTW Portland
     
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    #91 Jersey

    I decided not to wear under ware today.
     
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    There's a bunch of Brochu's in Concord, NH; wonder if he's in their clan? Must be related someway.

    RIP, soldier. You gave everything you had. Peace on your journey.



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  4. Wildo7

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    When did Obama say he would bring home troops from Afghanistan? When did he claim to be "anti-war?" Did you even watch the campaign Harry?

    P.S. I STRONGLY disagree with this administration's foreign policy and both wars we have waged.
     
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    That's interesting timing. A co-worker who is a libertarian and voted for Obama told me he has decided this month that "Obama is no better than Bush". He hated Cheney, yet feels that Obama's "crony's" are worse, and is especially upset that he promised to bring home the troops, and there are now more over in the middle east than when Bush left office.
     
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    Obama never promised to bring home the troops, and anyone who expected him to is an idiot for not paying attention.
     
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    I never felt he would. Quite simply he can't. But my co-worker is extremely anti-war, and he strongly felt that Obama promised several times on the campaign trail to bring the troops home. He follows that stuff pretty closely, so I'm going to assume he is right.
     
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    You said Obama promised to bring them home. Then you say that he "felt" Obama promised that. Now you are conceding that you don't even know what Obama said and are too lazy to look into it so you will just defer to your friend. How pathetic.

    Afghanistan escalation was a centerpiece of Obama's campaign, one of the many reasons I didn't vote for him. Even you could not have been so ignorant to have not known that. So were you lying?
     
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    Obama based his entire campaign on the "eight failed years of the Bush administration", thus implying at every turn that the rush to war (in BOTH Iraq and Afghanistan) was wrong. Obama said it EVERY SINGLE time he opened his mouth last year: "..... these last 8 failed years of this administration ....", implying that ALL problems -- from the wars to the economic meltdown -- were the responsibility of Geo Bush and Republican policies.

    Now we find out that not only is Barry's policy NO DIFFERENT than Bush's in Iraq/Afghanistan, but also that the entire economic meltdown is due largely because of idiotic laws passed under the administrations of Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton, the UTTERLY FAILED Community Reinvestment Act and the fall-out it produced by opening the door completely for abuse of the mortgage lending policies in the U.S.


    Change for the WORSE!!

    Get rid of Barney Frank and Chris Dodd in 2010. Or else we are doomed.

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    Obama ran as an Anti War Candidate and an Anti Gitmo Candidate, Obama won, NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

    Obama is also just like Bush on the handling of Illegal Aliens.

    OBAMA IS BUSH (but he looks different)
    One difference, Bush would never call a Police Dept "stupid"
     
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    Lying for Jesus again?

    If you seriously thought that Obama was going to bring troops home from Afghanistan then you didn't listen to a single speech or watch a single debate and probably shouldn't have voted being so uninformed. If you didn't, then you are a liar. Which one is it Fog? A little bit of both I imagine.
     
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    I thought Obama was a socialist, are you saying Bush was also a socialist?

    Can you find me one quote or piece of information that suggests Obama ran as an "anti-war candidate?"
     
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    Don't let your head explode just because I honed in on the TRUTH of the matter!!!

    I stand 100% on what I said. Here, again, it isn't too hard to understand: Obama ran his campaign 100% on ".... these past 8 years of failure...." Go to any tape of any speech at any venue on any day of the entire 18-month campaign Obama waged, and anybody looking and listening will see and hear the exact same thing: ".... eight failed years of Bush/Cheney". His implication is clear: war is no good; he will even "close down Gitmo"; he will then "save the economy" (from the results of his Dem predecessors utter disastrous policies via the CRA) ... ALL OF WHICH he laid at the feet of Bush/Cheney.

    Face the facts: Obama's "change" is going to turn out WORSE than the original problems he started with. His socialized medicine scheme alone would effectively destroy America's economy and make China the world leader by default. Some may not care, but I DO!!

    No lies, just facts. Grow a pair and deal with those facts.


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    Fact: Obama continuously promised to continue the war in Afghanistan throughout the campaign.

    All of your other BS has nothing to do with what he said. He never once made himself out to be an anti-war candidate. If he had, I might have voted for him, but the fact that he didn't represent any actual shift in foreign policy is one of the main reasons I didn't vote for him

    I'm sorry you didn't pay attention.

    Trying to turn "8 years of failed Bush/Cheney" into "I am anti-war" is fairly impressive, even for you though. I applaud you for your effort at trying to spin your way out of the bold faced lie you made.

    On the off handed chance that you actually believe what you are trying to put over on us, can I ask that if you think "8 years of failed Bush/Cheney" is to be taken as "I'm anti-war," then why did he explicitly and repeatedly say he was going to increase our presence in Afghanistan, calling it the "just war?"

    You have an implication which may or may not exist on the one hand, and an explicit policy statement on the other. The fact that you came to conclude that the former should be weighed more heavily is not only completely stupid, but it's downright unbelievable.

    I suggest you not try to insult the intelligence of the entire forum by continuing down this road. Nobody is falling for it.
     
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    #75 Jersey

    This is all true, but that doesn't change the facxt that Afghanistan is a complete cluster fu(k as it always is. We have no clear objective, timetable, definition of victory nor significant international support. All of these shortcomings could have been and were said of Bush in Iraq. Why is it OK for Obama? How does he justify trashing Afghan villages while leaving KofSA and Pakistan off the hook?

    BTW, when are the troops coming home from Iraq? They're not, that's when. They will either stay in Iraq for some mystical reason or be transferred to Afghanistan.

    Obama has to remove our troops from both places. His campaign statements notwithstanding, we don't belong in either place. We can't fight terrorism with prolonged military campaigns. It's treasonous to put US troops in harm's way when they are not defending the security of the US. the blood from every American death and casualty from now on is on Obama's hands.
     
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    I totally agree with you, obviously. That's why I didn't vote for him.
     
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    You can PRETEND that the Dems did not build their ENTIRE strategy upon anti-war sentiment and Bush/Cheney bashing-related-to-the-war against terror, but you'd only be pooping on your self. NOBODY (outside of the Democrat party line) is ever going to buy that. From day one Obama lazered in on the insinuation -- ".... eight failed years of Bush and Cheney ...." -- that was 100% all about anti-war sentiment. The Dem-created economic crisis that erupted in late summer of last year was just an added slice of pie for dessert. Everybody knows how much Obama and the Dems love pie. YouTube - Obama: I Like Pie. You Like Pie Too?

    And THAT'S the way it is.

    Good night, and good luck.

    Courage.



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    So again, saying "8 failed years...." is more indicative of being "anti-war" than explicitly saying he was going to escalate the war in Afghanistan?

    I know it's impossible to pin you down when your in fogic mode, but I'd love to hear you rationalize that.
     
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    So what else was Obama talking about when he said "... the past 8 failed years of Bush and Cheney ..." way back in late 2007, and all the way through 2008, until the economic bubble burst in late summer of last year??? What was Obama's insinuation when he said ".... 8 failed years..."????

    Obama said he was going to close Gitmo -- hasn't done it.

    Obama said he would chase bin Laden to hell and back -- hasn't done it.

    Obama said he would "end the past eight failed years of Bush and Cheney" but he's just given us an $11 TRILLION national debt. :steamed:

    Good luck.


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    Sean Penn voted for him.
     

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