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    Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?

    monkey see, monkey do
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    Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?

    it might just mean the Bears were stupid enough to agree to not franchise him again next year.
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    Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?

    Hope so...but I never count on reasonableness when it comes to players and contracts.
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    Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?

    samuel will then be the only idiot in football not being paid, great move asante, and let him sit next year to after we franchise him again! my advise asante is to go flip burgers at macdonaldsand"GET PAID"
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    Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?

    The whole point is the risk Asante faces by gambling that he wont get hurt this year before he realizes his long term deal.

    How stupid would his move look if he took the 8MM, blew out a knee and never got a chance to see his mega deal come to fruition.

    I see his point and I don't blame him one bit. He paid his dues as far as honoring his contract and now the Patriots are doing what is well within their rights, but Asante sure is as well.

    I still think he reports with two weeks to go in preseason - but man that risk won't go away.
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    Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?

    Anyone attacking Asante on this is just being a fanboy. Being a fanboy is fine, but don't patronize people by pretending you have an objective opinion. Most people here are like attorneys representing a client: they're going to give their client's side of the story no matter who's right.
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    Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?

    I understand what you are saying and I see Asante's side but he did choose to play football for a living. Last I checked you can get hurt doing that whether you are ni your 1st, 5th or last year of your career. You can't tell me that he has gotten this far fearing he is going to get hurt. For this reason I do not sympathize with Asante and think that the "I might get hurt" excuse is weak!
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    Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?

    The point isn't getting hurt, it's getting paid if he gets hurt. He chose to play a sport where he could be hurt, but he's only willing to do it for certain financial guarantees. It's not like he's torching the team's complex, all he's doing is refusing to play, something that's well within his rights. He didn't choose to play football at any cost.
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    Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?

    It's called insurance. You know, the one you really need to have, cuz if you don't have it, that's why you need it. :D

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=O-EZf56AfYc
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    Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?

    Asante has to guage the risk versus reward. He hasn't made a ton of money as a 4th round pick on a rookie deal. The $7.8 is therefore a lot of money in the short term. Does he refuse to make money now, for more money later, in knowing that he might get franchised again next year? Does he sit out till week 10, and risk being franchised, along with coming in out of shape, which usually means injury? I think there are far more questions for Asante, and far more risk than most people understand. He's got some real problems to figure out, cuz there isn't anything easy about the multitude of courses he could take. Personally, were I him, I'd protect myself from injury with insurance, and play for the $8 million. If not, my second choice would be to skip till week 10 if the Pats long term offer were so insulting. The problem with the later is it lessens his value long term, and also means he just gets franchised again next year. The Pats hold the leverage here.
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    Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?

    Like I said, I understand what the point is, I just think his reason (possibility of getting hurt and then won't collect his $$) is weak at best. How does he know that he won't get paid if he gets hurt? It's an assumption he's making based off of a possibility. I really think that he is afraid of not reproducing the same type of stats which would hurt him in the pocket more than getting injured (yes that is an assumption I am making but I think it's more valid than his).

    At least if he got injured he would still be able to point to the 2006 season and say "look what I did BEFORE I got hurt" and use his injury as an excuse. Whereas if he played and didn't live up to what he did last year, teams can say, we aren't going to pay you that amount of money (what he wants) because you are a one year wonder.

    Again, I see both sides of this I just don't agree with his reasons.
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    Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?

    WHAT ABOUT THE RISK FOR THE PATRIOTS IF THEY PAID HIM AND HE BLEW OUT HIS KNEE?WHAT IF HE LEAVES 5 MILLION ON THE TABLE , COMES BACK IN WEEK 10 AND BLOWS OUT HIS KNEE?HE REALLY WOULDNT GET PAID THEN,INJURY IS PART OF FOOTBALL AND YOU CANT WORRY ABOUT, IF THAT IS HIS CONCERN BUY INSURANCE
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    Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?

    THIS FORUM IS ABOUT OPINIONS SO I DONT GET YOUR POINT,IF SOMEONE BELIEVES HE GREEDY BY ASKING FOR A 30 MILLION BONUS THATS OUR RIGHT
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    Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?

    Yeah I feel for him?????:rolleyes:

    Do I take the 7.8 Million to play a game and then get millions more next year

    or

    Do I sit for 10 weeks and get paid 5 million.....

    Hmmmmm tough choices that guy has. Boy am I glad I dont have those tough choices to make.....NOT.:mad:
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    Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?

    Caps-lock, it's right above Shift.

    Nobody's stopping you from giving your opinion, by all means continue to, but it embarasses me to see people being so partisan. We're all Pats fans, but some of us apparantly have no objectivity.
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    Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?

    What about it? Everything is a risk! I'm not saying that Asante should be paid 30 million in the first 3 years, but how much are the Patriots willing to move? We already know that they have their limits. As far as I'm conecerned, anything above average market value for his position is money he has already earned. He definitely outplayed the 4yr/$2m contract, so take that into account with the contract talks. He should at least get a contract similar to Tillman or Bly. At minimum, he's worth that much!
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    Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?

    Huh???

    Being a Pat's fan means being "objective"?

    Showing "partisanship" for your team is a bad thing?

    I gotta go check out this fan thing again before going any further...
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    Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?

    Being a human being means, or should mean, being objective. Obviously you want your team to win, you don't need to be objective there, but if your opinions are driven by that, rather than an honest assesment of the situation, your opinion's only worth the 2 minutes you spent typing it.

    If I say "A is true because of B", but actually I mean "A is true because I'm a fan of the Patriots and want it to be true", how is somebody going to take you seriously? If you're going to debate, ground yourself in fact instead of emotion.

    Believe me, I'm not taking people to task here, I'm guilty of homerism once in a while just as bad as anyone else, but this whole Asante thing has really brought out the most illogical in people. It's fine if you think he should play for whatever the team offers, but don't pretend that you're basing it on any kind of logic.
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    Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?

    13 million an a avg of 6 million a year is not chump change for a player who had 1 breakout year and 3 average up and down injury riddled years before
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    Its based upon common sense....

    No person in their right mind turns down what he was offered. He is in never, never land if he thinks he is going to get 30 Million up front after 8 great games and 3 and a half seasons of mediocre...:bricks:
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    Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?

    i think pujo is part of asante's represenative team , its to bad they revert to fans forumns
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    Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?

    :eek:
    About as stupid as he was at passing up the 13 million guaranteed that was sitting on the table he did pass up. :bricks:

    Yeah poor Asante...NOT! :eek:
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    Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?


    I agree with P. Some team would throw near 30mil(in real money) at Asante. That's why the Pats have locked the franchise tag on him.
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    Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?

    Thats fine some team might......But not the Pats.

    And the reason they have him locked up is they want compensation if he is going to leave.
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    Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?

    For the first time
    it occurs to me that
    Meriweather may not sign either
    until Asante's situation becomes much more clear
    .

    His value ... hence, his leverage ... is considerably higher
    if Samuel is AWOL.
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    Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?

    He might get it, but if he doesn't it's his loss. I still don't hate him for trying, $8 million might just not be very much to him.
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    Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?

    Another thing to think about is that his teammates are not behind him on this one. Guys have come out about Asante saying hes on his own because several of the Patriots best players Vrabel, Harrison, Bruschi, etc have never seen that kind of money for one year.
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    Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?

    Stupid would be taking a deal below market value because you were franchised.

    I do not think he should get Clement money he seeks, but I do feel he is close to Vasher or Tillman money.

    I do think the Bears were dumb to give away their leverage in terms of giving up franchise rights for Briggs next year. They sold out their future in order to get one last year out of him.

    I also think, as was pointed out, a good insurance policy and playing for the 7.9MM is his very best option for both the long and the short term.

    I think the Patriots should creatively seek a way to pay him his 7.9MM to get him to come in - but NOT if it means giving up the franchise tag opportunity for next year.
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    Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?


    I dont hate him....:confused:

    Really could care less. But if 8 million isnt very much to him, he is out of touch with reality.

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