Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by BradyBranch39, Sep 1, 2012.
Well, that's surprising. NFL teams baffle me.
Sign the beast.
Now what does this say about the crowd raging that Belichick was too stupid to trade Hoyer for a pick?
Well, apparently that $1.9M salary was a bigger deal than we thought. It not only got him cut, but made him go unclaimed. I think he'll be a Chief.
As said several times, by the afternoon of Monday September 10th - after 2-3 QB's go down with injury in game one - they will be calling him.
His value wasn't now. It was Monday September 10th.
You really shouldn't be baffling at all. Paul Parillo from PFW told the story that he asked Hoyer why he signed his RFA tender so quickly (given there was supposedly so much interest in him). Hoyer told him that during the time before he signed, he didn't get a single call from a team...ZERO interest. So he and his agent decided to sign the tender and play this year for the $2MM. Little did he know.
Just another example of a fan base who overvalues their own players,. Everyone thought Kafka was another back up QB the league loved, yet he too went unclaimed. The truth is that everyone thinks "their" guy is the guy everyone wants. Well there were over 700 players that were waived on Friday. I'll be surprised if 10 were claimed.
I don't think when he is cut that anyone has to pick up the existing contract? Not sure. As the previous poster said when there is an injury or 2 he will get picked up.
Anyone who had claimed him off waivers would have had to pay the old contract. Now, they can sign him to whatever deal they can agree to.
They do on a waiver claim. Now, though, his old contract is kaput, and he can be signed for any amount.
i'm shocked the jets didn't claim him just to piss you guys off
this right here makes sense as to why they'd cut hoyer - Mike Kafka could be a Patriot, Packer, Brown or Chief? - NFL.com
kafka has been really impressive IMO
No team like Kafka enough to claim him, and he was cheap too, unlike Hoyer.
I really do not see us carrying 3 QB's unless one can be put on IR.
Value and Hoyer can't be used in the same sentence.
I never got any proof that Hoyer was ever worth anything but being a JAG and an dire emergency QB at best.
A 4th round trade for him like some expected goes beyond laughable and stupid,he rarily showed anything resembling a QB capable of producing in this level.
The only thing he had going for him was he watched from the sidelines and practices of one of the greatest QBs to play the game...and NOTHING else.
The Pats knew he had little trade value because they most likely tested the waters when he was a RFA to see if any teams were interested in him.
Couldnt the Pats wait for Hoyer to clear waivers and just pay him 1/2 of his current contract? He already knows the system and would suffice as a 3rd string QB
If Hoyer is willing to come be the #3 for the Pats, there's nothing stopping him from signing with them.
while it's true teams have started to enter the season with only 2 qbs more and more, this kafka guy, the few times i've seen him , has been unphaseable and highly efficient
i think cutting him was a big mistake by the eagles
Why anyone is clinging to the idea that Belichick cut a valuable commodity in Hoyer is baffling. A valuable commodity goes unclaimed? But he'll have value later!
So we keep him on the roster in the event that Vick or Bradford or any other QB goes down over the next few weeks? What team is going to come begging for Hoyer? He is not that good. He's more desirable than Colt McCoy, Matt Moore, and countless other non-starting QB's out there?
Those who forget history are doomed to repeat mistakes.....or something like that.
Michael Bishop - could have been our Kordell Stewart, taking us to the promised land. When really he was a poor man's Kordell Stewart. And Kordell Stewart turned out to be flat out poor.
Rohan Davey - he was never going to play because of Brady, but what potential! He was the MVP of a league played somewhere that "football" is a sissy game where players prance around a field trying to win One to Nil. How did we not get a 1st round pick for him, as so many said that was his price?
Brian Hoyer - other teams will line up to trade for a guy who learned behind Tom Brady for 3 years. Sure, he's never actually done anything on an NFL field to impress the desperate teams looking to pick up Patriot scraps, but he's gotta be worth a 2nd or 3rd, right?
Sergio f'in Brown has been claimed! Yet Hoyer waits.
Besides, what if Belichick got a 2nd for Hoyer? Everyone would have complained when he reached on another guy absent from the Kiper's big board.
Al Davis is Dead and Matt Millen isn't the Lions GM anymore....don't believe anyone else would have been that stupid.
Nor do I.
This opinion is clearly not unanimous, though.
Not entirely true. It indicates that anyone complaining that we didn't trade him for a pick misunderstood the market, because it was impossible to do so, since no team wanted him even for free.
This is speculation on your part, which is understandable and might well be accurate, but is still just speculation. The truth is that it's possible that there was a market for him, but that the market dried up. That does happen, and other reasons might also exist. We just don't know, which is why this says nothing about those people.
Edit: Actually, give the situation, I'd probably have been more accurate in saying that we can't be sure what it says about those people. Approaching it that way, I think it would be fair to then add that I think your position is probably correct.
Separate names with a comma.