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    Escalation of violence.

    The New York Times reports a “coordinated assault on an American combat outpost north of Baghdad.” Suicide bombers drove three cars laden with explosives into a U.S. base, killing two American soldiers and wounding at least 17 more.

    The brazen attack, which was followed by fierce gun battles and a daring evacuation of the wounded by at least four American helicopters, came on a day of deadly violence across the country, including shootings suicide bombings, mortar attacks and roadside explosions. Civilians, Americans and the Iraqi security forces all were targets.
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    #75 Jersey

    I thought you were talking about the Deomcrats in Congress
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    Hey, you're almost as funny as that Egyptian political cartoon.
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    #75 Jersey

    It wasn't mean to be funny, just the truth.
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    Oh please, you would have had a drumroll in the background if you could. Bada-boom!
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    What's in the picture? Are the faces anyone in particular?
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    Is it Hillary and a terrorist? Say, FTW, what did you think of Reagan's support for the terrorists went he sent us hightailing out of Lebanon after 240 Marines were killed? Maybe it's Reagan who started the whole coddling the terrorist approach? What'd'ya think?
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    never quite understood that one either... the Godfather of Con man agenda tucked tail after our embassy and our Marine base was blown to smithereens... wow...
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    HA, HA, HA!
    You're a funny guy!
    Two dead and 17 injured!
    Real fu-king funny, jackass!
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    Isn't anyone concerned about the number of US servicemen killed in Iraq? Isn't anyone concerned about the increasing ease in which insurgents are shooting down US helicopters?

    The attacks on US soliders in Iraq are becoming more frequent and more coordinated. We should all be concerned. I am sorry if I miss the humor.
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    Their big CONCERN is "Destroy Bush" they will never get over the fact that he beat them, Twice.
    The war is their weapon.
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    #75 Jersey

    I absolutely beleive that the Democrats are helping the terrorists, it is no "joke".

    The Democrats need this, they must have this! Their entire agenda is to ensure that America loses in Iraq. Anything else would be devasting for thier power, which is all they care about.

    They are an absolute disgrace! Imagine in the days after 9/11, that the entire Democrat party less than six years later, would align themselves with the terrorists, and work in every way for the defeat of America.

    Think about it, if tommorrow the war was over and the terrorists were wiped out, the Democrats would be despondent, that is a sad, sad, thing to say, it is however, the absolute truth!

    Do you think that in any way, Iraq would be in a much better situation, if the DNC was populated with actual Americans, who would have put the country before thier power. Do you think in any way, their complaining has done the servicemen any good, they started with crying about the sacking of the Iraqi musuem, and have embolden the terrorists at every chance they get.
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    #75 Jersey

    The United States does not have chemical weapons, let alone selling them, we wrote the chemical weapons ban, it all started with Nixion:

    Here's a little truth and history to go with your lies.....

    Chemical and Biological Weapons Chronology


    1969 -- November 25 U.S. RENUNCIATION OF CHEMICAL AND BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS U.S. President Richard Nixon declares that the United States unilaterally renounces the first use of lethal or incapacitating chemical weapons (CW) and unconditionally renounces all methods of biological warfare (BW). The U.S. biological program will be confined strictly to research on defensive measures such as immunization. The president further instructs the Department of Defense to draw up a plan for the disposal of existing stocks of biological agents and weapons.

    1970 -- February 14 U.S. BAN ON TOXIN WEAPONS The United States extends its ban on biological weapons to include toxins (agents produced through biological or microbic processes).

    1972 -- April 10 SIGNING OF BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS CONVENTION The United States, Britain, and the Soviet Union sign "The Convention on the Prohibition of the Development, Production, and Stockpiling of Bacteriological (biological) and Toxin Weapons and on Their Destruction" (BWC). Parties to the convention undertake not to develop, produce, stockpile, or acquire biological agents or toxins "of types and in quantities that have no justification for prophylactic, protective, and other peaceful purposes," as well as related weapons and means of delivery.

    The BWC does not prohibit BW research and does not contain provisions to verify compliance (see April 1979).

    1975 -- January 22 U.S. RATIFICATION OF GENEVA PROTOCOL The United States ratifies the 1925 "Protocol for the Prohibition of the Use in War of Asphyxiating, Poisonous, or Other Gases, and of Bacteriological Methods of Warfare" (The Geneva Protocol), which was originally signed by the United States on June 17, 1925. This protocol bans the use of chemical weapons, but not their manufacture or stockpiling.

    1975 -- March 26 U.S. RATIFICATION OF BWC The United States ratifies the Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention. By December 26, 1975, it has completed destruction of all biological weapons.

    1979 -- April ANTHRAX EPIDEMIC An epidemic of human anthrax, probably caused by airborne anthrax released from a BW research laboratory, kills at least 64 civilians in Sverdlovsk, U.S.S.R. The cause of the epidemic remains controversial for decades, and the incident generates questions about Soviet compliance with the BWC.

    1980 -- March 17 CHEMICAL WEAPONS CONVENTION The United Nations Committee on Disarmament begins work on a chemical weapons convention.

    1984 -- April 18 U.S. DRAFT TREATY BANNING CHEMICAL WEAPONS At the Committee on Disarmament, U.S. Vice President George Bush presents a draft U.S. treaty banning the development, production, stockpiling, and use of chemical weapons. The plan calls for systematic on-site inspection of CW facilities to ensure compliance.

    1984 -- June 28 REESTABLISHMENT OF BILATERAL U.S.-SOVIET TALKS In parallel with the multilateral negotiations on a chemical weapons ban at the CD, the United States and the Soviet Union reestablish the bilateral talks on chemical weapons that had begun in 1976 and were broken off in 1980.

    1985 -- February U.S. CALL FOR CHEMICAL EXPORT CONTROLS Following charges by Iran that Iraq had used poison gas in the Iran-Iraq War, the United States proposes the establishment of export controls on the chemicals, equipment, and technology needed to produce chemical weapons. 1985 -- June THE AUSTRALIA GROUP In reaction to the use of CW in the Iran-Iraq War, the United States, Canada, Japan, New Zealand, Australia, and the 10 EC members establish the Australia Group in 1984. The group begins meeting in June 1985 to develop a system of export controls on the precursor chemicals required to manufacture the weapons being used in the war. At the June meeting, the group adopts a core list of five controlled chemicals.

    1985 -- November 21 GENEVA SUMMIT U.S. President Ronald Reagan and Soviet General Secretary Mikhail Gorbachev issue a joint statement calling for an accelerated timetable to conclude an effective and verifiable CW ban and to begin discussions on preventing the proliferation of chemical weapons.

    1986 -- January 28 U.S.-SOVIET DISCUSSIONS ON CHEMICAL WEAPONS The United States and the Soviet Union begin the first round of intensified bilateral discussions on a CW ban.

    1986 -- September 30 SECOND BWC REVIEW CONFERENCE The second BWC Review Conference adopts four "politically binding" confidence- building measures (CBMs):

    o The declaration of all high-security containment facilities.

    o The declaration of unusual outbreaks of disease.

    o The encouragement of the publication of research results.

    o The encouragement of international scientific contacts.

    1987 -- February 5 PROPOSED GLOBAL CHEMICAL WEAPONS BAN At the CD, the United States asserts that it gives achieving a global CW ban "the highest priority." However, it "will not accept...a ban without sound machinery of verification."

    1987 -- August 11-12 SOVIET STATEMENT ON CHEMICAL WEAPONS Soviet Foreign Minister Eduard Shevardnadze announces that the Soviet Union will henceforth be willing to accept the principle of "mandatory challenge inspections without right of refusal" as part of the verification provisions of a CW ban. This removes a critical remaining obstacle to an international ban. The foreign minister also invites CD participants to a Soviet military facility to observe the destruction of CW.

    1987 -- October 3-4 TOUR OF SOVIET CHEMICAL WEAPONS FACILITY The Soviet Union hosts an international delegation of experts at its previously secret chemical weapons production facility at Shikhany.

    1987 -- November 19-20 TOUR OF U.S. CHEMICAL WEAPONS PLANT In a reciprocal visit, Soviet scientists and diplomats tour the U.S. chemical weapons storage and destruction facility at Tooele, Utah.

    1987 -- December 26 SOVIET CW STOCKPILE DECLARATION The Soviet Union declares for the first time the size of its chemical weapons stockpile. According to the official statement, "the stocks of chemical weapons in the Soviet Union do not exceed 50,000 tons of poisonous substances."

    1988 -- July 28 U.S. CHEMICAL WEAPONS PRODUCTION FACILITIES At the Conference on Disarmament, the United States declares the location of all its chemical weapons production facilities and outlines plans for their elimination under a CW ban. It calls on other states with CW to do the same.

    1988 -- September 26 U.S. CALL FOR CHEMICAL WEAPONS CONFERENCE U.S. President Ronald Reagan, in a speech to the United Nations General Assembly, urges the parties to the 1925 Geneva Protocol and other concerned states to convene a conference to reverse the rapid deterioration of respect for international norms against chemical weapons use.

    1989 -- January 7-11 PARIS CHEMICAL WEAPONS CONFERENCE One hundred and forty-nine nations meet at a conference in Paris to restore respect for the Geneva Protocol and its prohibition against the use of chemical weapons. In a concluding document, the nations "solemnly affirm their commitments not to use chemical weapons," and stress "the necessity of concluding, at an early date, a convention on the prohibition of the development, production, stockpiling, transfer, and use of all chemical weapons, and on their destruction."



    This is from the Federal of American Scientists website



    Care to retract your false acusations???????

    I believe you owe Rumsfled an aoplogy!
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    Oh my god, there are people who actually believe all the dribble fed to them by the WH and the Right Wing Media outlets. I don't understand your last paragraph completely, are you saying that all of the diatribe by GWB about being the decider, the 1/2 truths about WMD in Iraq, the Constitution is a worthless piece of paper etc. is not about power?? You might want to take a look here at a bigger picture here. Never defend the Dems, but saying what they are doing is soley about power begs the question.
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    No some of us look at translations of what is being said in the middle east media about the behavior of our congress. We also are old enouigh to see that this is the same game that was used in Viet Nam.


    IF we were to win a victory in Iraq (stable democracy, without widespread sectarian violence and AL Queda only a minor factor) it would be bad for the dems politically. The worse things are for America in Iraq the better for the dems politically in 2008.
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    I guess the faux pas of GWB & Crew about the demise of Al Quaida, now the resurgance of them in Afghanistan &Pakistan is a good thing for the Dems?? Tough to figure, but these guys in the oval office are not keeping their eyes on the prize.. Bin Laden is still out there and has considerable influence.

    There are comparisons to Viet Nam, but I don't see them as much, during the Viet Nam war there was considerable loss in all areas, personnel, civil unrest and inflation it directly effected the american people in all walks of life, in Iraq it is like a video game to those in DC..it is not the same feeling, there is not much comparable suffering for the American people, except our grandchildren will be paying for it financially for years to come.
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    Who ever said that there was a demise of Al Queda? Are you referring to Bush congratulating the troops for eliminating the Iraqi Army?

    I never heard anyone say that Al Queda was done. Indeed Bush stated after Afganistan that this conflict could go on for a generation.
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    Perhaps it was a poor assumption when GWB moved the troops from Afghanistan to Iraq to oust Saddam.. don't have time to check, but I believe he was thought to be out of the picture or probably dead. It makes sense to me to go after the real culprit, instead of a bunch of #2's and 3's.
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    Why have anyu attacks been mounted by Al Queda from Afganistan on the US? Also our troops were replaced by NATO troops. I thought the dems were b*tchin about us acting unalaterally all the time. Well in Afganistan we are getting significent support from allies and you seem to think that is a bad thing?
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    what a ridiculous piece of hate-filled pap... it would be hysterical if not for the insulting assertion at the end that it's all somehow "absolute truth"... what a sad, sad commentary from a clear and staunch member of the out-of-touch party....
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