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  1. Silver Blue&Red

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    Overblown BS flag, the ref should'v tried catching it...
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    Lloyd was flipping the ball to the official, like players do every play. The official, though, wasn't ready or expecting it and it hit him in the chest. So, he threw the flag.

    Lloyd may have been slightly irritated that the pass was called incomplete, but it's not like he chucked the ball at the refs face or anything..

    The ref clearly over-reacted.
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    I think the ref tried to rip out his panties but got the flag instead.
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    It was a little hard, but doesn't deserve a flag. Maybe he also said something to draw the flag
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    The ref meant to pull out his doily to throw around like a prancing queen, but he accidentally grabbed the flag instead.
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    If he didn't say anything, that was a bad call. He did put a little extra on it, but the ref needs a better sense of the situation.
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    pure BS all it was
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    officials waited a while, i think if Lloyd were looking and said something like "sorry" the ref would have forgiven it, with the way things happened i think ref thought it was intentional
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    Unless Lloyd said something, that was a terrible call. Obviously the official misjudged the intent.
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    Even BB mouthed. "What kina bulls h i t call was that?"
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    Oh, Oh Oh..I thought he said "Whatcha call your pet bat?". Now it makes sense. :eat2:


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    BS call all the way. Ref was embaressed he couldn't catch it and decided to take it out on Lloyd. Unless Lloyd said "take that Be-iach", no way that deserves a flag.
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    I thought at the time he threw it left handed and I was thinking is he naturally LEFTIE or did he accidently put some extra mustard on it cause he was flipping the ball with the wrong hand. Would have to go back and look at tape to see if my memory is right. (not sure is worth my time for a minor pt).
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    "USC penalty?" Come on, this is a lazy title, no? Last time I checked Brandon Lloyd didn't lose any college awards because of "improper benefits."
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    With that said, Lloyd was clearly pissed (and that pass was all Brady's fault), and threw it a bit too hard back at the ref. Lloyd is a bit of a hot head, it's not shocking.
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    Honest ?.

    Based on what? .....my impression was that he didnt have a lot of fire; didnt see much hot-head in him through-out the season.

    Was glad to see him get the TD and the couple of 1D signals out of him; he seemed more fired up than usual catch & lay-down.
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    How was he clearly pissed? Was he pounding his fist, waving his arms, getting in someones face/approaching someone in a confrontational way......any sort of demonstrated anger? Was shouting heard or his lips seen mouthing something that indicates he was very angry? From what I saw on the video, he did none of this. And in terms of NFL standards of "clearly pissed" that can be seen frequently on the field, he appeared to be a country mile from any of that. But who knows, maybe he was angry or clearly pissed at the lack of completion (or maybe something else) ....yet "clearly pissed" and what that denotes is something I did not see.

    "Lloyd is a bit of a hot head"? Point to some examples of BL's time with the Patriots where he lost his cool on the field or on the sideline? How about other penalties for USC? How about several examples of after the whistle shoving matches with one of the many goading big mouths that cover receivers (who often work to specifically get under a receivers skin)? Me, I can't think of a time I have seen BL on game video where he is not going about his responsibilities the right way.....much less enough times to earn him the title of "hot head".
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    A lack of fire may be accurate depending on your definition of fire. But when you say lack of fire it (to me) denotes something negative. Sure, BL doesn't appear to get very worked up often. But to my recollection he is always plays with a good level of energy. Jumps up after a tackle quickly, typically a smile on his face, quick jogs back to the huddle, never a stop for worthless jawing with an opposing player - always right down to business. From my point of view, I have no issue at all with BL's pace/level of energy, effort or professionalism.
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    the entire ref crew had an obvious bias against the Pats from the start...that ref reacted like he was told pregame to flag anything that even remotely resembled an infraction against the Pats...when hit, well, THAT was a major 15 yarder...it's on film...the entire sporting world knows he made a turd call...if it was just a random event then, well, crap happens...but considering what that crew called all game long, that call was as ridiculous as the rest.
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    Definitely, one of many bad calls! Wasn't Troy Brown flagged for flipping the ball to the ref during the playoffs many years ago?
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    Yeah, he never stops scowling. Just look at him!

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    to be honest, LLoyd threw it wayyyy too hard..most players flip it to the ref, LLoyd zipped it. Penalty?...I can certain;y see it
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    that call killed the drive. should've been just a delay of game penalty.
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    Yes. Lloyd flipped the ball with zip on it and the ref was not ready for it so I can see a DOG penalty here at the most. We also don't know if Lloyd said anything.

    The key is, by escalating a possible delay of game penalty into USC the ref made it all about him, not the game.
    Ref should be disciplined and out of any playoff games.
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    Did Lloyd get a fine for tossing the ball to the ref with butter-fingers?

    If the NFL thought he really chucked the ball at an official, a fine (if not worse) would definitely come down. I haven't heard anything, so presumably it was even obvious to the league that there was no ill intent. Did I miss him getting fined or has there really been no word?
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    Re: Did Lloyd get a fine for tossing the ball to the ref with butter-fingers?

    Haven't heard anything to this effect. Maybe someone with a brain and no flag in their pocket took a look at the tape and realized he just threw it back like he always does and the ref didn't see it coming.
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    Re: Did Lloyd get a fine for tossing the ball to the ref with butter-fingers?

    Lloyd was not fined, and I did not expect him to be, seeing that this was his first unsportsmanlike conduct.

    Also it was not a clear cut violation (as excess celebration would be, for instance). Maybe Lloyd gave back the ball a little too hard, but his actions otherwise did not suggest there was any intentional malevolence on his part.
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