Brady's shot at football immortality

[fair catch fryar]

I used to get caught up in this futile discussion, but I'll leave it alone because none of it matters unless the Pats win the next game. Besides, Brady already is a football "immortal" and his ticket to the HOF is already punched.

 

[borg]

Manning is now a 9 time All Pro....Brady is a 3 time All Pro. When history judges the greatest QBs, one argument Brady will face is that during this era of play, Peyton Manning was deemed superior to Brady by the establishment most every year. And since 2 QBs make the All Pro team yearly, only twice did the selectors deem Brady a top two QB. Montana was a 6 time All Pro.
Just offering some facts......simmer down

 

[patsfan13]

Manning is now a 6 time All Pro....Brady is a 2 time All Pro. When history judges the greatest QBs, one argument Brady will face is that during this era of play, Peyton Manning was deemed superior to Brady by the establishment most every year. And since 2 QBs make the All Pro team yearly, only twice did the selectors deem Brady a top two QB. Montana was a 6 time All Pro.
Just offering some facts......simmer down

This is of course a travesty based on Manning hype in the media.

 

[borg]

This is of course a travesty based on Manning hype in the media.

Not really. This is a regular season honor and Manning typically has the loftier stats in the regular season. Plus, he is very noisy under center with a lot of hand wiggling and vein pulsing

 

[mb6592]

Not really. This is a regular season honor and Manning typically has the loftier stats in the regular season. Plus, he is very noisy under center with a lot of hand wiggling and vein pulsing

and he played, basically, arena football in a dome.

 

[patsinthesnow]

and he played, basically, arena football in a dome.

With two HOF WRs.

 

[Sivy]

If you get a Jury of people, much life a court room setting with people who never watched Brady or Manning, and only presented the facts, and some film as evidence, Brady would e considered better beyond a shadow of a doubt.

 

[borg]

If you get a Jury of people, much life a court room setting with people who never watched Brady or Manning, and only presented the facts, and some film as evidence, Brady would e considered better beyond a shadow of a doubt.

And you know this ....how?

And this year which facts would sway the voters to Brady beyond a shadow of a doubt?

Maning owns: Better record, higher comp %, higher passer rating, more TDs, fewer sacks.
Brady owns: More passing yds, fewer INTs, Rushing TDs

Is that shadow of the doubt proof? Do voters get to consider other contributing factors like strength of running game?

And since your voters have never seen Brady or Manning before, then it is likely they haven't watched football in the past 15 years, so am I to understand you value the opinion of a group that has no clue of modern football over the AP voters the cover a sport for a living? Got it!

 

[goheels22002]

With two HOF WRs.

That's a chicken or egg situation with Harrison and Wayne. How good would either have been if they had played with Sanchez or any of a number of mediocre to poor quarterbacks?

Manning is a top-flight passer and can read defenses as well as anybody. He's made the guys in Denver look like elite receivers as well.

But he's a step behind Tom Brady.

 

[borg]

That's a chicken or egg situation with Harrison and Wayne. How good would either have been if they had played with Sanchez or any of a number of mediocre to poor quarterbacks?

Manning is a top-flight passer and can read defenses as well as anybody. He's made the guys in Denver look like elite receivers as well.

But he's a step behind Tom Brady.

The "step behind" Peyton Manning was a 68.6% passer this year while Brady was tied for 10th at 63.0%.....slightly below his career average. In fact Brady's two years as 1st team All Pro had comp % of 68.9 and 65.9.
This one statistic did TB in this year

 

[patsinthesnow]

That's a chicken or egg situation with Harrison and Wayne. How good would either have been if they had played with Sanchez or any of a number of mediocre to poor quarterbacks?

Manning is a top-flight passer and can read defenses as well as anybody. He's made the guys in Denver look like elite receivers as well.

But he's a step behind Tom Brady.

Reggie Wayne just posted 106 receptions, 1,355 yards at age 34 with a rookie QB. Boom. No chicken or eggs.

 

[borg]

and he played, basically, arena football in a dome.

Manning just completed his second most accurate season in his career.....outdoors....without his HOF receivers. Now that the two most often cited negatives have been squashed, what will the Manning haters go with now?

 

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Manning just completed his second most accurate season in his career.....outdoors....without his HOF receivers. Now that the two most often cited negatives have been squashed, what will the Manning haters go with now?

I'll probably just wait until he craps the bed in the playoffs when it's cold

 

[randomk1]

Reggie Wayne just posted 106 receptions, 1,355 yards at age 34 with a rookie QB. Boom. No chicken or eggs.

Harrison had 64 for 836 and 73 for 866 in his first two seasons with jim harbaugh at QB