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    The last time Patriots fans saw Tom Brady on the field, New England ended up on the wrong side of a 33-14 loss to the Baltimore Ravens and a first round playoff exit.

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    Let's identify who Tom is alluding to. My nominees include:

    * Adalius Thomas specifically, the linebacking corps in general.
    * The cornerback and safety units. Not everyone all the time, but the youngsters, especially, didn't show consistent effort.
    * Joey Galloway.
    * I'm on the fence about Randy Moss, but feel compelled to include him. Same with Ben Watson.
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    It'll be interesting to see how McCourty fits in, or is able to establish leadership. Already he looks and carries himself as more mature than most of the young DBs on the Pats. It's hard to project a rookie as a leader of a unit, but it'll be a dynamic worth watching. Somehow I don't see Meriweather as a natural leader and guys like Butler and Chung -- I'm not sure I see the same leadership traits as I see in McCourty.
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    I'm starting to feel really good about the secondary we are putting together.
    Butler and McCourty are top level talents and Bodden is solid. The rest of the group ought to net us enough to fill in the blanks.
    Meriwhether and Chung have the potential to be a strong pair of safeties for a long time, and we have experienced vets for depth.

    McCourty, Butler, Chung, Meriwhether is as talented a group of DBs as we have had here in a long, long time. As long as thier talent equates to football skill, we have a lot to look forward to
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    I have to "bump" this....... I agree with this assessment.

    I think this crop of rookie draft picks, in general, brings a palpable mental toughness with them. Especially looking forward to seeing how Brandon Spikes looks in TC, and into the season. He's got an edginess to him I like.

    Lastly, I was very impressed with Alge Crumpler in his interview on the official site. Really, really looking forward to seeing him in a Pats jersey!
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    I've been frantically trying to find the video of him losing his **** on Galloway on the sidelines. You can clearly see Brady screaming "it's not that ******* hard!" and I'm pretty sure Galloway was benched immediately after.
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    Just wondering what makes you think that about Butler. He was a two year captain at UConn and told the staff there he was willing to play in the kicking game and on offense in order to help the team.
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    Didn't mean it as a knock -- before the '09 draft I would have been psyched if they got Chung OR Butler. I'm very optimistic about both of them as far as the talent and character they bring to the team. I think they are both team players, and that is one type of leadership.

    I'm just saying what I sense from McCourty is something more, a presence that will inspire other players to follow his lead. Hope that makes sense. Time will tell. (In the same way we might see Spikes be a different type of leader than Mayo among LBs, longterm. Even Belichick used the word "presence" when talking about some of the players in this draft. To be clear: I am talking about being VERY optimistic about this year's draft class, and am not in any way down on last year's.) :)
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    Thanks for clarifying.
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    No sweat. I like the way this team is being built (as Feep50 above says, this year's picks have"palpable mental toughness." Which is even better than "presence.") I just hope it jells while Brady is still in his prime.
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    Can you give us a reason or example why you think McCourty is so chock full of "leadership"? An anecdote will do or perhaps an article.
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    Very little is made about coaching mistakes in the Raven's game, but none could be worse than the decision about field position and taking the sun in the face to start the game. It was just as responsible for the slow start as any other factor. Mental toughness is an abstruse factor when you can't see the d*****d ball.

    They didn't put them in the best position to win on that occassion.
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    Why do you have to think he is alluding to particular people and not just saying what he believes to everbody?
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    I said after the draft that it was clear that leadership skills was very important to the Patriots.

    The amount of Team Captains that were drafted was incredible.
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    On defense I think Vince, Mayo and Spikes will emerge as the leaders there and I hope Merriweather starts to show a bit more 'Rodney' back there

    On offense im not sure why guys like the vets on the O-Line arent more vocal
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    Truer words haven't been spoken. The 2009 team was so frustratingly soft, after week 1 it could be counted on to wilt in the face of adversity. By year's end, I wasn't even sure if I liked the team (not in a bandwagoner, "I think I'll become a Saints fan" sort of way, but in a tough love sort of way).

    Brady's talking toughness, Belichick's drafting toughness, now let's see if they can put it all together.
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    I think leadership starts with a sense of the person; I've been impressed with how he speaks, how he carries himself. (Obviously being a good player helps). He seems very mature, the type of person others will follow with confidence. And everything I read on him after he was picked indicated he was a leader at Rutgers. How that translates to the NFL level is obviously yet to be seen.

    Here are a few links I got from Googling "Devin McCourty leader."

    McCourty embraces captain’s responsibility | Scarlet Scuttlebutt
    Daily Targum - McCourty embodies leadership with all-around performance
    Round 1, Pick 27: Patriots Select Devin McCourty, CB, Rutgers | patriots.football-news-update.com
    2010 NFL Draft Player Profile: Devin McCourty | NFL Soup
    Devin McCourty | Rutgers Scouting Report - 2010 NFL Draft Prospect
    2010 NFL Draft Scouting Report: Devin McCourty | NFL News, Rumors, Scores, Predictions, and Stats
    Devin McCourty looks to make his own name for the Scarlet Knights | Rutgers University Football - - Rutgers University Football - NJ.com
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    This is quite an admission.

    I guess the question now is whether Brady and a revitalized Wilfork and a few others can provide the kind of leadership that is needed, while the newer guys, mentioned earlier in this thread, earn the right to lead. Getting rid of Adalius was definitely addition by subtraction as well.

    What is truly interesting to me in reading Brady's comments these last ten days is that even an HC with BB's credentials doesn't, on his own, command the kind of respect I'd think he would. That tells us how tough that job is and suggests how quickly players, who weren't there to share it, discount past successes; it's definitely a "What have you done for me lately" (with the emphasis on "for me") League.
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    LOL please post that here or send it in a PM if you find it. :D
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    These are actually some pretty good reads - thanks for posting these.
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    Brady then added "I'll show you mentally tough..." as he slowly began to unzip his pants
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    Hopefully Belichick has them doing brain sit-ups in the offseason. They really do need to get tougher mentally.
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    I don't like him saying this. He was certainly at fault for the Ravens loss as much as anyone else. He threw four interceptions towards Sam Aiken for crying out loud. Was he not mentally tough enough last year?
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    Missing the plays readily available to him to win the 2009 Denver game and the 2010 Ravinz fiasco was the worst I'd seen Brady play in years. He's always had a stinker or so per season but last year it was in a playoff game.
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    He always includes himself in these types of things. He knows he needs to do better, and he admits as such. As a team leader, he's still allowed to call the team out.
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    Sorry.

    This is just eyewash. They lost because this Patriots edition had less talent than other editions of the Patriots.
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    I prefer to think that they lost because of sub-par talent at key positions, lack of locker room leadership, and mental toughness. It's a combination of all three on top of some uncharacteristic boneheaded decisions by the coaching staff. I expect the 2010 team to be better.
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    Against the good clubs the 2009 Defense was unable to get off the field. Yielding 110 yards per game and 4.4 YPC is enough to lead to a losing record. But the Pats were too good for that on Offense. The 2002 Club would have had a losing record. And the Rush Defense was only mediocre but not atrocious.

    None the less, Belichick treated that weakness as something so important that it warranted fixing over all else. Anti-run CB, anti-run SILB, anti-run DE--> OLB; and signing two former First Round DLs to patch the hole Seymour left. I've never seen Belichick spend so much effort on a single problem.

    Nevertheless this Defense is much better than last season's edition. Leaving the opposition in 3rd and 6 will automatically give a much better Pass Rush and pass coverage too, than constantly facing 3rd and 2.

    This Team's Offense is still not decayed enough, to not be a total terror. The Offensive line is talented and very, very, deep. Imagine this WR corps in the latter part of the season. Two future HOF WRs and a All Pro slot receiver, to go with a very good TE and H-back. And then add in Faulk, or go 4 wide with Tate. That would give every DC heartburn. Plus you can't just forget about the run.

    The RBBC should produce just as well this season, as last. Nothing spectacular but lots of yards piled up on the ground. I would not want to meet this Team in the Playoffs, after the Team has a chance to jell.

    The only weakness I can see, is whether Brian Hoyer is ready or capable of doing a good Matt Cassel imitation, if needed. I suspect he is not ready for another year. I wonder if Belichick will sign a vet QB?
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    I think when we see guys like Wilfork and Brady talking about the team's shortage of mental toughness or leadership issues, we're starting to see just how much it hurt the team to lose Bruschi, Vrabel, Harrison and Seymour in one season. I mean, look at those names! Gone in ONE SEASON. Those are some dominant personalities and it's becoming clearer that the leadership gap they left was HUGE.

    Reiss quotes Welker today:
    “Yeah, I do agree with (Brady on mental toughness),” Welker said. “There were some areas where we lacked that. There is not a whole lot of Rodney Harrisons and Mike Vrabels and Tedy Bruschis of the world. We have to do our best to try to replace guys like that that bring a lot of mental toughness to the team."

    So, hopefully some guys are realizing it's their turn.
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    im sure brady is talking about him self as will i remember him going off and the side lines a few times cause guys were not catching balls that he was throwing over ther heads


    and he pretty much had a meltdown vs the texans after welker went down



    tom brady, the greatest QB of our time but i think he needs to stop talking to the media about how the team needs to Listen to BB and have the right mind set just go out ther work hard and lead by example
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