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Brady at No. 9 in USA Today Top 25 Players list

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    Let the fun begin! They've listed 9--25. Now who are the top eight since 1982?

    My list (alphabetically)

    Marcus Allen (SB and NFL MVP)
    Steve Largent (awesome career)
    Joe Montana ('nuff said)
    Walter Payton (Sweetness was the greatest)
    Jerry Rice (best WR ever?)
    Lynn Swan (just makes it by playing final season in 1982)
    LT (the only one who really deserves to be known by his initials alone?)
    Reggie White (the Minister of Defense)

    Notes:

    It says "players," so I'm assuming that Bill Walsh isn't eligible.

    I have left Elway and Kelly off since there is no way--unless the old fix is in--they could be ranked above Aikman, TB, Bradshaw, Marino, Peyton and Young, who are already on the list.
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    Marcus Allen? No way...

    Emmitt Smith will be in there though obviously
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    I have left Elway and Kelly off since there is no way--unless the old fix is in--they could be ranked above Aikman, TB, Bradshaw, Marino, Peyton and Young, who are already on the list.[/QUOTE]

    I don't see any way John Elway isn't on this list.
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    No question Largent and Allen had great careers, IMO you need to put Emmitt Smith and Deion Sanders in as the alternatives.

    I am not a Cowboys fan whatsoever, but as a 3-time SB Champ and the all-time leading rusher, he needs to be there.

    Sanders is perhaps the greatest cover-corner in the history of the game (yes, he was a poor in run support, but as a CB who cares). He was also IMO one of the greatest KR guys ever.

    Anyway, this is a great topic!
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    Good catch on Emmitt. I was always a big fan of Allen, but you have a point.
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    I don't see any way John Elway isn't on this list.[/QUOTE]

    But, how can they rank him above Brady, Bradshaw, Aikman and Marino? The first three have TEN rings among them and the latter owns every record in the book.
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    Wow, you almost hear the Dolphin fans crying that Brady is ranked higher than Marino all the way up here from Florida. :)
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    But, how can they rank him above Brady, Bradshaw, Aikman and Marino? The first three have TEN rings among them and the latter owns every record in the book.[/QUOTE]

    Well, he went to four more Superbowls than Marino (and won two more), two more Superbowls than Brady, two more than Aikman. Bradshaw was never considered that great of a player, although clearly the team's achievements were extraordinary; Elway sustained an incredibly high level of play over 14 years, something that Aikman didn't manage.
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    I don't see any way John Elway isn't on this list.[/QUOTE]



    Ha - all John Elway ever did was carry several Bronco teams on his back all the way to the SB before they got some help ( Sharpe, Terrell Davis etc) and they won the last 2. Guy was incredible - and maybe the best QB ever.
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    ohhhh thank god. I thought this was the 25 list for the nfl as of now.

    and i was going to ask how in the hell #9 is even possible.
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    Sanders is on the list at #16. I'm not sure how you could not include Montana, Payton, Rice, L.Taylor, R.White, Elway and E.Smith on the list. That leaves one spot open. How about Ronnie Lott?
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    I'd say 7 of the top 8 are easy to figure out without regards to order:

    Montana
    LT
    Emmitt
    Rice
    Payton
    Elway
    Reggie White

    Maybe Lott is the other? He certainly was a better player than Rod Woodson.
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    Maybe I should read down to the bottom next time before posting.....
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    I thought you were being sarcastic ;)
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    Jim Brown?
    Johnny Unitas?

    edit: never mind - it is only for 1982-2007
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    My point on Elway was never that he doesn't belong on a list of the 25 greatest players to play in the NFL since 1982 (clearly he does belong), just that I don't see him above, for example, Brady with three rings and two SB MVP's.
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    I think the entire body of work of Elway's long career certainly makes it possible for them to construct a good argument for him being ahead of Brady at this point.

    I'm hoping that by February, there's no debate. :)
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    There is no way Elsay isn't in the top 5. I'd consider him #3 after Montana and Rice.
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    Can't argue with your last point!
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    OK, I'll admit that I was probably too much of a Homer on this one and that Elway should go ahead of TB, but with Sweetness, Montana and Rice still not on the list, I don't get him in the top three. Also, LT and Reggie White had a huge impact on the other side of the ball and one or both of of them should be in the top five IMO.
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    Well USA Today seems to agree with you. They have Lott at No. 8. Good call.
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    Is it possible that one of the top 7 yet to be named is John Hannah?
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    Doubtful. It would require leaving off one of Elway, Montana, Payton, Emmitt, Rice, Taylor, and White. I can't see any way they don't have all those 7 guys in the top 25.
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    Since there is likely to be a wild card pick in here which would take a lucky guess to name, I will try again. I thought that Hannah was a logical choice but here is another who had a major impact on 3 Super Bowls and at least one other playoff game-Vinitraitor. Just a guess but who knows.
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    Lott, LT and Reggie White were guys that through sheer force of will just took over games. It always amazed me that nobody seemed to be able to gameplan to prevent them from making big plays. Can't say the same for Ray-Ray and Primetime.

    There are likely people who won't understand how Lott (a safety for most of his career) could be #8...but he really was amazing during the 9er's championship run.
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    I didn't see the list for 9-25 .......any link provided?

    As for Payton, my all-time favorite, but most of his career was pre-1982.

    What about Barry Sanders? The MOST exciting player since 1982!

    Was Eric Dickerson in the top 25?
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    I really don't think there is going to be a wild card pick. With 7 spots left for there to be a wild card it means one of Montana, Elway, Payton, Emmitt, Rice, White, and LT aren't in the top 25.

    That is the greatest QB ever, another of the top QBs ever, the current and former all time rushing leader, the best WR ever, and 2 of the very best defensive players the game has ever seen. How can you leave out any of those guys on the top 25 list of the last 25 years?

    I would say Hannah's a guy you can make a good case belongs. I would originally have said his career mostly predated this list's timeframe and that is why he isn't on it but then I see Bradshaw's name on it.
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    NVM..I found the link and my guys are already on the list.

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