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    i just read Brady and Warren were fined 5,000 and 10,000 for not buckling there chin straps. Is this true? I understand they want to reduce concussions but those are high.
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    Re: Were Brady and Ty Warren fined 5,000 and 10,000 ?

    If they're really fining people for that then they must have handed out 350 fines this week.
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    Re: Were Brady and Ty Warren fined 5,000 and 10,000 ?

    Welcome to Goodell's NFL.
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    Re: Were Brady and Ty Warren fined 5,000 and 10,000 ?

    I really am starting to dislike Goodell. I respected him for finally making NFL players see what real life is like. But jesus, there is a difference between policing them and treating them like this is college! They're grown men, you simply can not discipline a grown man anymore. I don't think Brady and Warren should be find for it when everyone else does it. If they get hurt it's their fault. I think they should definantly be flagged a lot more for safety, but fines? Even if small seems to me like Goodell is becoming insecure and nothing is good enough for him.
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    Re: Were Brady and Ty Warren fined 5,000 and 10,000 ?

    How is a 3rd and fourth chin strap going to help concussions? They were wearing the 2.
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    Re: Were Brady and Ty Warren fined 5,000 and 10,000 ?

    Link to this story please?
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    Re: Were Brady and Ty Warren fined 5,000 and 10,000 ?

    I don't know if this one ias true, but I have heard of other players getting fined for this in recent weeks. There was a play during the game Sunday and they showed Brady at the line with a strap hanging and the first thing I said was "There's a fine." Sad what the NFL is becoming.
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    Re: Were Brady and Ty Warren fined 5,000 and 10,000 ?

    I can never post a link. I found the article on southcoasttoday.com. Or if you google tom brady fined , then click news it is there.
    I guess 13 fines are being fought by the players union. 4 of those are from Brady and Warren. The players are told by the refs to buckle all 4 . They can not be flagged but they are fined. 5,000 for first time, 10,000 for second.
    Thanks for posting the link.
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    This is about the problem with concussions. The NFL has a legal risk very much in play, and can't afford to be shown to be ignoring its own rules that reduce their likelihood. Its all about courtroom strategy at this point.
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    Re: Were Brady and Ty Warren fined 5,000 and 10,000 ?

    Is it also mandatory that players wear mouthgaurds? What about thigh pads, rib pads, Knee braces? I' m sure some lame study can be trotted out to support the argument to put players in full body armor. Is the NFL legally at risk here too?
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    Re: Were Brady and Ty Warren fined 5,000 and 10,000 ?

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2314899

    As of this article 40% of NFL players don't wear a mouthguard. If the NFL is so concerned about concussions why don't they mandate that players wear a mouthguard?
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    Soon. Just wait.
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    Re: Were Brady and Ty Warren fined 5,000 and 10,000 ?

    They should just start wearing these:

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    Re: Were Brady and Ty Warren fined 5,000 and 10,000 ?

    I don't think that there is a target on the Pats players. Goodell is going after everybody. I just read that Roy Williams got fined $15K for Horse Tackling.

    http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcon...oys/stories/101307dnspocowbriefs.34aca28.html

    http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/
    Wow they can suspend a player for that?:confused:

    and let's not forget the fine on TO for that celebration a few weeks ago. I didn't think it was a big deal, but I guess the commish thought differently. Leaguewide, this man must be dropping the boom on players for every little thing.
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    Re: Were Brady and Ty Warren fined 5,000 and 10,000 ?

    He does it alot. This is the second time this season they fined him for it.
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    Re: Were Brady and Ty Warren fined 5,000 and 10,000 ?

    The rule was invented because of Roy Williams. He continues to do it. The horse collar tackle is a very dangerous maneuver.
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    Fellers,

    that's even even the worst of it. The NFL has at least one representative at each game whose sole job is to warn players about uniform infractions, and to report them for fines if they fail to comply. These infractions range from not pulling up their socks to not tucking in heir jersey, etc. Really mickey-mouse stuff and the fines can add up for repeat infractions.

    That doesn't even include the wearing of non-authorised shoes, headbands, do-rags, etc.

    Respects,
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    And teh problem is goodell is a hypocrite...there's a dentist in the South Shore that has a solution to this..that the so called NFL experts in this do not like..and ignore him..He fits players with mouth guards that prevent a LOT of concussions from the front...mainly about 60% or so..but Goodell's cronies ignore what he has done and..frankly, I';d like to see Goodell go down in flames..GONE!! He sucks for football..and he may be the first commissionor to see the league go in the wrong direction.. Get the *** out of here..your father was a scumbag who didn't have the balls to do what was right..and you are worse!!
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    They should and there's a dentist in MAss..that does just that..but Goodell is too stupid doing memos against cheerleaders and other things to give a damn..
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    Re: Were Brady and Ty Warren fined 5,000 and 10,000 ?

    Its a good thing Goodell doesn't oversee the NCAA. During that Clemson game last week, their field goal kicker didn't even have a chinstrap!
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    No the shouldn't, I don't want the NFL dictating what equipment has to be worn. They are already a PIA about the uniform. The players should have enough common sense to use mouthgurds without being told by the NFL and if they don't, tough luck.
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    Dean Wormer(Goodell) would put them on double secret probation!!
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    Re: Were Brady and Ty Warren fined 5,000 and 10,000 ?

    You couldn't be more wrong when it comes to safety issues. The NFL as an entity is the employer of the players and all employers are responsible for ensuring their employees are as safe as possible on the job. This is true of any place that you work. If you don't follow safety rules in other jobs do you think your employer will not care? There are obvious liability issues.

    It's mind boggling to me that people are complaining about the NFL trying to make sure these guys don't get seriously hurt. Concussions can cause lifelong neurological damage.
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    I am not sure about chinstraps...and how that REALLY matters in teh scheme of things as far as safety goes..BUT I agree whole heartedly that safety issues MUST be addressed.
    But here the NFL has stumbled a great deal...when there ARE things that teams do like the Patriots..and have connections with those that COULD make a difference league wise. For some reason what this dentsit has been doing for years is ignored totally by the NFL idiots. SOlutions are there, but Goodell would rather send memos about cheerleaders etc. WHat about teh two serious injuries in back to back weeks?? I think he should be looking at things like that and NOT the baloney he does now.

    http://www.lincolncourier.com/printstory.asp?SID=7426
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    Reading that article hints at the likely reason that dentist is being ignored: he's probably the only one in the industry who believes his theory on concussions. Maybe he's right, but in any field of research if your theories are unproven and you buck the current consensus thinking then many people will ignore you.
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    Re: Were Brady and Ty Warren fined 5,000 and 10,000 ?

    This reminds me of the Andy Griffith show episode where Andy takes a vacation and Barney has the whole town jammed into the two cells after a week.

    I think it ends up with everybody escaping and Barney locked up.

    It would be nice to lock up the commissioner before he suspends every player and coach in the league.:rolleyes:
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    I could be wrong but I read that the minimum fine is $5,000.00.....:eek:
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    Specious argument , the NFL is not a typical workplace. No way is the NFL legally responsible for the saftey of the players. If that were the case why aren't there thousands of NFL injury cases pending in the court system? The NFL is a dangerous place where the injury rate is pretty close to 100% per year, players know this and understand a few things about their career choice. 1) they will be compensated pretty well 2) They may get seriously hurt. 3) May be retired by the ripe old age of 26. Does this sound like a typical workplace?

    The NFL rules currently require only 2 pieces of protective equipment. Helmet and shoulder pads. No mouthguard, No rib pads, No cup, No hip pads, No tailbone pads, No thigh pads, No Kneepads, NO knee braces and No neck collars. Do any injuries occur in the areas that are currently not required to to protected?? Yeah, every game.

    I'm a believer in personal choice and I also accept the consequence of my actions. If I smoke I may get cancer and guess what it's not Big Tabocco's fault it's mine. It's the players choice to wear whatever optional protective equipment they want and if and injury occurs because they choose not to wear all the optional equipment available to them it's their fault not the NFL's.

    If in the future the NFL is subject to typical workplace saftey rules than the game as we know it will be dead. You will see players in those big sumo outfits with flags for Tacklin' (may be good for the Colt's)

    Equipment and Uniform link http://www.uniformviolation.com/RulesRegs/RulesRegs-NFL-Gen.php
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