Brace

[efin98]

One of our esteemed and highly paid wordsmiths said, regarding a different player, that he had been told that failing the conditioning test could sometimes be considered failing the physical.

He therefore conclude that, since it could be then, it must be here, therefore Brace failed his conditioning test.

I'm not kidding, I read this from the Herald, I think.

Most of the sports writing in this town is a disgrace. It's the same as a lot of journalism. It's story based and the facts will not impinge on the ability to create controversy regarding the "story".

Brace was a lazy tub of goo was the story and most writers, who knew better, went along.

Start of this month Reiss had a quote from Casario saying "injury" within the quote...either the Herald and the Globe didn't carry that quote or missed that part of it.

 

[RayClay]

Start of this month Reiss had a quote from Casario saying "injury" within the quote...either the Herald and the Globe didn't carry that quote or missed that part of it.

Reiss had it right all along, he said he was on the non football injury list. He didn't feel like saying more than he knew, and I'm sure never felt obligated to call out all the media that was saying or strongly implying that Brace was an out of shape blob.

someone else said he had an abdomen strain or something, but for weeks the only injury mentioned was cramps, which just fueled the innuendo.

When Reiss doesn't know something he either says nothing or specifically identifies what he considers to be a reliable source.

He's pretty much "on an island" around here when it comes to that level of professionalism.

 

[Armchair Quarterback]

Lewis had 0.5 sacks last season. His career high is 5 sacks, back in 2004. If he was brought in to replace Green as a 3rd down pass rusher, people need to be fired. Immediately.

Green had a grand total of 1 sack last year. Lewis can be every bit as useless as Green was last year.

 

[Deus Irae]

Green had a grand total of 1 sack last year. Lewis can be every bit as useless as Green was last year.

I don't want to go too far out on a limb here, but I'm going to guess that the notion of "replacement" for Green would come with the idea of improvement, as opposed to "sucked just a little bit more".

 

[efin98]

Reiss had it right all along, he said he was on the non football injury list. He didn't feel like saying more than he knew, and I'm sure never felt obligated to call out all the media that was saying or strongly implying that Brace was an out of shape blob.

someone else said he had an abdomen strain or something, but for weeks the only injury mentioned was cramps, which just fueled the innuendo.

When Reiss doesn't know something he either says nothing or specifically identifies what he considers to be a reliable source.

He's pretty much "on an island" around here when it comes to that level of professionalism.

Reiss held firm on his non-assumption with the Caserio quote on the 5th

“When he’s healthy, when he’s ready, he’ll be back out there practicing.”

After Reiss ran that quote Rappaport came back with the claims about him failing the conditioning run...Rappaport left out the key thing- he can't pass the test if he isn't healthy. But that addendum by Rappaport was fuel for the naysayers and Brace fanatics to assume it was because he was out of shape.

Even when he came back Rappaport was still claiming it was because he was "out of shape" yet and puts words into Brace's mouth about his conditioning by chopping a quote by Brace about his catching up to his teammates in camp into pieces to make him look like he was talking about being out of shape still

Reiss didn't make any assumptions about Brace, apart from being disappointed by him he hasn't gone into any assumptions about the why or made any claims about his play other than giving him some congrats on his play against the Falcons...Rappaport on the other hand has been beating the drum against Brace fueling the anti-Brace crowd.

 

[TheComeback]

I don't want to go too far out on a limb here, but I'm going to guess that the notion of "replacement" for Green would come with the idea of improvement, as opposed to "sucked just a little bit more".

Green had one year with more than 6 sacks. Otherwise his career is very similar to Lewis', stat-wise. Are you arguing that Green sucked in that pass-rushing role, too, based on stats alone?

That time of the month again, Deus?

 

[SanAngeloState]

Green had one year with more than 6 sacks. Otherwise his career is very similar to Lewis', stat-wise. Are you arguing that Green sucked in that pass-rushing role, too, based on stats alone?

That time of the month again, Deus?

Green was horrible. No push, nothing, just useless.

 

[Deus Irae]

Green had one year with more than 6 sacks. Otherwise his career is very similar to Lewis', stat-wise. Are you arguing that Green sucked in that pass-rushing role, too, based on stats alone?

That time of the month again, Deus?

Green spent his career as a backup behind the league's best 3-4 DE pairing. Also, your information is incorrect. Green has 2 years with more than 6 sacks (6.5 and 7.5).

Lewis has been in the league one year longer than Green, and started 19 more games than Green has, yet he's got 5.5 fewer sacks.

I have no problem with the Lewis signing, as an overall signing to compete for a position. But if he's only been brought in to replace Green as a 3rd down specialist, someone needs to lose his/her job.

 

[JackBauer]

Green spent his career as a backup behind the league's best 3-4 DE pairing. Also, your information is incorrect. Green has 2 years with more than 6 sacks (6.5 and 7.5).

Lewis has been in the league one year longer than Green, and started 19 more games than Green has, yet he's got 5.5 fewer sacks.

I have no problem with the Lewis signing, as an overall signing to compete for a position. But if he's only been brought in to replace Green as a 3rd down specialist, someone needs to lose his/her job.

Green hasn't been a good pass rusher for a couple of years now. So while people may have considered Green to be a "third down specialist," I'm not sure how much that means when Green's putative speciality, pass rushing, is something he doesn't do all that well.

If Lewis can play the run, he'll probably be a net gain; otherwise, it'll likely be a wash. Though I haven't really seen enough of Lewis yet to make any worthwhile determination.

 

[Ring 6]

Green hasn't been a good pass rusher for a couple of years now. So while people may have considered Green to be a "third down specialist," I'm not sure how much that means when Green's putative speciality, pass rushing, is something he doesn't do all that well.

If Lewis can play the run, he'll probably be a net gain; otherwise, it'll likely be a wash. Though I haven't really seen enough of Lewis yet to make any worthwhile determination.

They are totally different players.
Green was smallish for a DL in our system, and he did get a lot of his reps as a passrusher from the DT position in nickle and dime, and whenever a DE was out Green never did more than split snaps replacing them.
Lewis was a 43 DT, something Green would never, ever be, and while he may have some ability as an inside rusher in sub packages I would be shocked if he was signed for pass rushing skill rather than run defense.
I think in the end, Lewis is a reserve at both 34DE and nickel/dime DT. I would expect he sees more time in the base than the sub, although.

 

[Deus Irae]

Green hasn't been a good pass rusher for a couple of years now. So while people may have considered Green to be a "third down specialist," I'm not sure how much that means when Green's putative speciality, pass rushing, is something he doesn't do all that well.

If Lewis can play the run, he'll probably be a net gain; otherwise, it'll likely be a wash. Though I haven't really seen enough of Lewis yet to make any worthwhile determination.

Believe me, I'm not trying to pump Green up. I'm still trying to figure out what McDaniels was thinking when he signed him to the contract he did. I was simply responding to one post that made the claim about Lewis coming in to take Green's spot as a 3rd down specialist.

 

[Ring 6]

Of course. The middle lineman, aka DT, aka NG, aka NT, doesn't always play the Zero. He can shade either way, or he can play over either G, in a shift too. Calling it a 4-3 because the LB was on the line is exaggerating it as a 4-3, a mite.

I dont think we actually played 43 vs Atlanta, I think it is a nickle package being confused as a 43 becuase we had 4 down lineman (2 of them were the 34 OLBs)