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  1. LoveDemPats

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    Ya know, I hate these guys. I went to the University of Florida, went to the Swamp and watched and cheered Payton get waxed. I have cheered against him and his brother for a long time. And his father, oh man don't even get me started.

    But ya know, those dudes have not said one thing bad about the pats in all this nonsense this year. And I must admit, that I now know who the real enemy is and it ain't them. (well, maybe their father still, but I can ignore him)

    Last night during monday night football, I didn't even grit my teeth and swear at the gods about how the Mannings must be removed from the earth. I seem to not care anymore. I actually think that Payton is amazingly great, and that it is soo cool to have Ali vs Fraser kinda thing going on. I think that we are lucky as fans to have the two Mannings. I think that Eli is pretty cool too. I mean, how great is it that Tiki is not there and they are winning. Tiki is such a douch.

    Anybody else feel different about the Mannings this year?

    Compared to Ldt, ManDouchbag, Dungy, The Commish, Wade, Porter, and so many of the others, the Mannings are frick'n pretty cool.
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    Wow, you may be opening your self to some flames. I agree about the whole rivalry aspect. It got a lot better with the Colts finally getting the ring, at least in my eyes. :D
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    I'm in the same boat- Peyton looks like a respectable guy in comparison to some of these d-bags like Whines Ward, TJ Whosyourmama, LT, Merriman and TO. And the rivalry has been bumped up a notch since January. November 4th is going to be one heck of a show - getcha popcorn ready ;)
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    True. I actually hated the Mannings with a passion before this year, but for some reason I don't really care about rooting against them anymore. In fact, I've been quite impressed with Eli's progression this year. I also hated Tiki Barber and think he is one of the biggest phony's out there(LT takes the cake though). I also hate Archie though. The guy needs to stop hopping into TV booths and in front of microphones every time one of his sons is playing. Hey Archie, you had your chance and you STUNK in the pros. Get out of the way.
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    I can't disagree with any of that. It's like another poster said, after a loss Peyton doesn't throw out excuses and say the other team isn't that great like a lot of our opponents have, he has called out team mates and while that should be something done in the locker room it isn't the worst thing in the world, especially when they DID have protection issues that game. The Colts players are really not unlikable people, Dungy and Polian are, but the players are great and consistently play their asses off.
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    Eli has been playing quite well, I think. Wonder if some still consider him a "bust"? Looks like Tiki might have been part of the problem! Archie doesn't seek the spotlight (unless he is championing a cause). AND, I wouldn't say he sucked. He played on poor teams, and was always scrambling for his life. Maybe he wasn't the greatest, but he didn't suck.
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    Flames. Hey, "I ams what I ams and I ain'ts no mores!" Popeye.

    It don't matter to me. I really think that they are great to have in the league and I have seen the real enemy. It just dawned on me last night. I don't hate the Mannings as much anymore.

    I think that there are enough people here who dig football. This year has really underscored the fact that there are people in the league who are real chickensh*ts, slimey, backstabbing louts who do not deserve to feel anything but loss after loss after loss.

    Hey, I certainly don't want the Mannings (either) to win the big ones, (against us, or the SuperDuperBowl) but they are or seem to be good people who have reasonable minds and are not back stabing slime.

    I mean, it seems pretty obvious to me. There is a clear distinction. (Dungy by the way is a slime ball to me so it ain't like I am too blasphamous.) Maybe I am?

    Again, it don't really matter.
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    Well, Archie makes my stomach turn. But I don't want to get into it with ya. I expect colt fans to stick up for "the family."

    And as far as Tiki "might" have been, well the season and carrier of Eli has a long way to go, but he is showing to be (as I stated) a reasonable person which is cool to me. There are so many unreasonable jerks in sports, Payton and Eli, (even though they are the enemy) they are not really rotten people. I mean, this year, we have seen some really rotten people come to the forefront. That the manning brothers have kept their mouths shut about all this camera crap is really a testament and I think that its cool to note it.
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    I've found myself rooting (a little) for Eli Manning this year, but that's more a product of my disdain for sportswriters and talking heads, who had him pegged as a failure. I've found myself wishing him well, only to remember the BS he pulled before the draft and not going to the Chargers. But, ****, I'd take Eli, who has grown a set as well as seeming respectful, over that whiney brat Rivers.
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    Peyton's not dumb. He's not going to give the Pats any more ammo than absolutely necessary.
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    #75 Jersey

    I think the Mannings would be more likeable if the said "no" to a commercial once in a while.
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    agree with you on all fronts. Manning said nothing about spygate, he is smarter than that. I think he feels that the colts did the same thing, different means - same ends kinda thing, to get a competitive advantage. This is just my gut feeling. Some of his antics like throwing his hands up in the air in the past couple years was kinda hard to take. But since he has not been too bad. He want to win and who can blame him for that.

    I think him and #12 have a good relationship, they respect each other yet want to beat each other. I can tell you this...as a fan it sure is fun to watch.

    I have always said on this board that I have no problem with Manning. Their owner, that is a different story....
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    Archie didn't suck??????? Uhh, yes he did. Throw out excuses all you want, but he SUCKED.

    | Year TM | G | Comp Att PCT YD Y/A TD INT | Att Yards TD |
    +----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+
    | 1971 nor | 12 | 86 177 48.6 1164 6.6 6 9 | 33 172 4 |
    | 1972 nor | 14 | 230 448 51.3 2781 6.2 18 21 | 63 351 2 |
    | 1973 nor | 13 | 140 267 52.4 1642 6.1 10 12 | 63 293 2 |
    | 1974 nor | 11 | 134 261 51.3 1429 5.5 6 16 | 28 204 1 |
    | 1975 nor | 14 | 159 338 47.0 1683 5.0 7 20 | 33 186 1 |
    | 1977 nor | 10 | 113 205 55.1 1284 6.3 8 9 | 39 270 5 |
    | 1978 nor | 16 | 291 471 61.8 3416 7.3 17 16 | 38 202 1 |
    | 1979 nor | 16 | 252 420 60.0 3169 7.5 15 20 | 35 186 2 |
    | 1980 nor | 16 | 309 509 60.7 3716 7.3 23 20 | 23 166 0 |
    | 1981 nor | 12 | 134 232 57.8 1447 6.2 5 11 | 2 28 0 |
    | 1982 nor | 1 | 1 7 14.3 3 0.4 0 2 | 0 0 0 |
    | 1982 hou | 6 | 66 125 52.8 877 7.0 6 6 | 13 85 0 |
    | 1983 min | 2 | 0 0 0.0 0 0.0 0 0 | 1 -1 0 |
    | 1983 hou | 3 | 44 88 50.0 755 8.6 2 8 | 2 13 0 |
    | 1984 min | 6 | 52 94 55.3 545 5.8 2 3 | 11 42 0 |
    +----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+
    | TOTAL | 152 | 2011 3642 55.2 23911 6.6 125 173 | 384 2197 18 |
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    Exactly. This really is a great rivalry. And, I really think that the Pats have changed their philosophy due to the Colts Offence. I think that there was a big brain trust kinda meeting at the end of last year and there were out of the box kinda thinking going on. The main adgenda, "how do we stop the colts."

    The NFL wants high scoring games. We have all heard this for a while now. The Colts bought into it hard and fast. They knew that they had the right ingredients (mainly, payton). I think that this NEP team has been built with the admission that the Colts now have a team that is the future. Cudos to them. I think the the pats have shown the ability to be flexible again, and to learn what direction they have to go to win it all.

    The league is now a FAstBreak league. (it is a similar thing that happened to the NBA with the Lakers and such.)

    Gotta stay with the times or get left behind
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    Yep, their owner and GM are quite hard to stomach. They make it fun to root against them. I love to see Napolian's face turn red. It is great entertainment.
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    I can tolerate Peyton somewhat now. But I still think Eli is a stupid little doofus hick.

    I live in Tampa, you people don't understand but when you live with Rednecks every day, your hatred of them grows exponentially. Every time I hear his stupid Mayberry voice I want to punch him in the face repeatedly.

    And whoever said Tiki was a douche, you were right on that one too. :D
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    What's wrong with Jimmy Irsay?
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    Why don't you go back to your Indystar board and leave us alone?

    ;)
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    That seems to imply that he does not say things out of fear. I don't agree. He does not say things because he is a better person than some of these dweebs who open their traps as if they are god-king-imboofoo.

    It's like they want so much to be a part of the action, that just by saying the word "Patriots" makes them contenders.

    Well, good luck to them.
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    See ya there in a little bit.
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    Ya know what, I don't really know anything about the dude, so I am going to retract that one.

    But the Polian comment stays. He is a pretty talented guy though. I think that most people felt that Adai was gonna be like the bust that we could all keep shoving in colt's fans faces, but alas, another great pick.

    Hey, they are a very good team. It does not come from outerspace. That team was built, and Polian was the builder.

    I don't like him though. :)
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    Haa

    Yea, that mayberry comment is pretty good.

    Hey, since you live down there and I lived in the south for a while, (had a great time by the way) have you ever noticed that Payton talks "kinda" like Elvis sometimes?

    It cracks me up. He has been influenced by elvis if you watch him closely, you can see it.

    I am a musician, and I do cover tunes, and dig all that old rock and roll stuff. I like looking at elvis stuff sometimes and I really think that Payton copies some of his manerisms. (he don't look like Elvis so don't mess with me bout that) But, watch him talk sometimes. It is uncanny.
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    Try living in New Orleans, they think everything the Mannings touch turns to gold around here. People wear Archie Manning jerseys to Saints games as if he was actually good or something, Aaron friggin Brooks broke most of his franchise records.
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    OK, I was wondering if I missed something. I understand why those outside of Colts land don't like Polian, but as a Colts fan we sure are glad he came to town.
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    Even though Peyton is a 32 year old virgin I do respect him and his skills. Eli might be the biggest terd in the NFL. He seems like such a whiny little beech that is dumb as a rock.
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    He's married with children(?) I believe (his wife is pretty hot by the way, i mean no gisele)
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    I don't think he has kids, but he is married.
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    Another thing Brady's better at doing...

    :D
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    Manning was always complimentary of the Patriots, even in defeat..and thats very hard to do sometimes. When the Pats beat the Colts in '04 he could've lost it, but he said again that they're the best team and will be until the outcome is different. Likewise, when they won last year, he still paid the ultimate respect and took nothing away from the Pats.

    So dont get it mistaken, Peyton Manning is hated because he's great, popular, and the biggest threat to the Pats and Brady's legacy...he aint hated cause he's a "jerk" or some other manifestation people would have you believe.
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    That's a lot of numbers dude, numbers I don't care to try and dissect. He may not have been the best, but he didn't suck. No one who plays 12-13 years as an NFL QB sucks, sorry. His team as a whole sucked, I don't know enough about their history, ownership, mission, draft day gaffes, etc..., to say why they sucked, but Arch could play.
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