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Borges manlove for Tony Dungy... poorly veiled anti BB rant

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  1. DarrylS

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    Borges is at it again, he writes an article talking about how great Tony Dungy is and how he does it his way, all the while taking off on BB.. what a f...ing tool this guy is, never misses an opportunity to go after our Coach.. maybe someday Tony can come here and coach this team and then everything will be ok. Or better still maybe Ronnie will get laid off by the Globe and go to work for the Indy Star or some other midwestern newspaper.

    http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2007/01/23/he_did_it_his_way/?page=1

    INDIANAPOLIS -- He doesn't sleep in his office, silence his underlings, grouse at the media, close his practices, lie to his players or the public, sulk about losing or equate winning a football game with keeping the free world safe. How did Tony Dungy ever get into the position he's in today.

    The coach of the AFC champion Indianapolis Colts walked into his news conference yesterday with a smile on his face, not unlike the one he wore a year ago after getting knocked out of the playoffs the day before by the Pittsburgh Steelers on his home field. You win some, you lose some, he seems to feel. Dungy, like every coach, would rather win them, but he doesn't think it's the end of the world if he doesn't.

    It's also the way he has followed to Super Bowl XLI, and it won't change that night. If things go well, Tony Dungy will smile and be joyful for the experience. If they don't, he'll smile and be joyful for the experience. Either way, he'll go home when it's over and know what he's just done. Won or lost a football game and nothing more.
     
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    Borges seems to have a problem with both BB himself and with the way some media types praise BB for his style. Either way as you have said it's a poorly veiled attack on the coach.

    Shouldn't be lost though that Dungy does deserve praise for his approach to the game. I'd still much rather have BB over my team but Dungy's style impresses me as well.

    On Borges I saw on the Globe recently that he was planning some live chat to 'talk X's and O's', suggesting this would be some in-depth analysis of the the game - something I love to read. It turned out to be generic rubbish. A lot of the stuff posted here by pats1 and Box_O_Rocks on the play by play or indeed Oswlek's thoughts on the game, to name just a few, would put it to shame.
     
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    "We talked about that in Tampa, how we were going to have to outhustle people," Dungy said. "So we said that if you're not running full speed, it's a loaf. If you changed speeds, that means you weren't running full speed during the play, so that's a loaf. If you're supposedly a fast guy, a defensive back or linebacker, and defensive linemen are passing you by, that's a loaf. If you don't hit a guy when you could hit him, that's a loaf."

    Dungy is beginning to remind me of the guy who spends all his money on lottery tickets, hits big once and is now being heralded as a financial genius.

    One AFC Championship season.......I have a feeling we'll witness him pinch a loaf in front of a national audience again. Soon.
     
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    i will go on record (not that that means anything) that the Bears will win the super bowl. This last game was the colts Super Bowl, and now they will lay their egg on the biggest stage.
     
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    I wouldn't call that poorly veiled. More like blatant.
     
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    I thought Manning ran that team. In my .02 Dungy has nothing to do with their offense. And, that is what beat us. Peyton and Moore.
     
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    I will be rooting for the Bears but if Indy wins I'll be glad for Dungy, especially after his personal tragedies... one can't help but wonder whether a SB ring would even be melancholy for him.

    I'd expect he's probably questioning whether his own devotion to football impacted his son's life adversly.

    On another level, if the Colts win, my hatred of them as a rival will be tempered with respect for a team that overcame its demons and won in what is, in a way, a very "Patriot-like" win to get the SB.

    As a football fan I think you have to respect that, even if you hate the Colts as a Patriots fan.
     
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    When I just reread the post, I noticed that... it is veiled,and not very thinly.
     
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    He could have made the contrast about not sleeping on the sofa and left it at that, but then had to take the swipe.

    Bottom line of the article was that Dungy won while being more like Pete Carroll and less like BB, and Bill Parcells (who Borges seems to like), and Mike Shanahan, all of whom are secretive and intense, and many other successful coaches who live and breathe football.

    I do believe, however, that too many people assume that because BB is successful, everything he does is a reason for the success. Some things he does could be helpful, some might not matter, and some might even be counterproductive. You have to look at the whole package.

    Dungy has done a good job, but he did inherit a 10-6 playoff team that had many of the same offensive stars he has now -- Manning, Wayne, Harrison -- and also a number of the same ofensive linemen, including Glenn, Saturday, and Diem. He also inherited two of their more respected offensive coaches -- Tom Moore and Howard Mudd. The game over the Pats was won on offense.
     
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    The way BB does things is not necessarily the right way or the only way but it works for him and it works for us. I'm sick of Bogus and his idiocy. I'm sick of the Globe for giving him a platform for it.

    Also read this today

    "It was a nationally televised reminder that for all his brilliance, Belichick is not a particularly nice fellow, and is especially hopeless around journalists -- who, like it or not, are a conduit to fans."

    http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/ny-spbest235063740jan23,0,5165903.column?coll=ny-sports-mezz

    And quite frankly I don't think that not being nice to reporters makes BB "not a particularly nice fellow." I also don't want a coach who accepts losing graciously. The 2006 season had been marked with dump on BB theme by the media. Some of it he's responsible for and some of it he's not. The only way to stop it is by winning.
     
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    No one has really remarked on it, but the Borges article also goes after Kraft.
     
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    Thanks Hoodie, I was trying desperately to avoid the press about this loss and BB in particular for a little while but I made the mistake of clicking the link :mad: :mad: :mad:
    Who on earth does Boomer Esiason think he is, he is "disgusted" by BB for not being warm and friendly to the idiot reporter trying to get him to "open up" after this devastating loss??? Never mind that he answered what was asked of him and politely exited the interview, I think they would prefer BB say
    f-you and storm off and give them something easy to write about. Trying to interview him is "hard"? Boofrickenhoo, moron, not everything you want to be easy actually is.
    I wish I knew his email address, I would soooo give him a piece of my mind.
     
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    I didn't get that from the article. Which phrase or paragraph are you thinking of?


    My own feelings toward the article are disgust and disdain. Borges is a terrible, terrible hypocrite: an easily-pissed off, easily-angered troll of a man who holds grudges, who warps or withholds the truth for a competitive advantage, and who, in the tiny confines of his columns, is an absolute tyrant who (ab)uses his powerful position in the Globe to scream at people.

    He is a callow creature, this Borges. And it is very depressing.
     
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    I'm sorry patsacolachick. I've been in avoidance mode as well. :(
     
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    Did anybody hear Borges on Felger yesterday?

    They got into it about BB and Borges said he doesn't like him because he cannot answer a simple question like "What back NFL back does Maroney remind you of?" When Maroney was drafted. BB said something like "He has the ability to play a lot of different styles......"

    Which isn't good enough for Borges.

    So Felger says to him "you know what your problem is? The typical Boston Globe arrogance"

    I was so happy I've been saying for years that the problem with Borges and Shaughnessy and other reports in this town is they don't want to cover the stories THEY WANT TO BE THE STORY.

    Borges went off "I'm not going to let you get away with that......"

    Truth hurts Raider Ron.
     

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