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What do you folks think the chances are that Bledsoe could be back with the Pats if something were to happen to Brady? My feeling is that he is a competitive guy and would put aside any animosity towards BB for another chance to start.
Cassell seems good enough, but he still hasn't shown it when it counts. I like Testeverde well enough, I guess, but Bledsoe is younger and may even know the system better (who knows how much it has changed over the years).
In fact, given the new WR core and the deep threats of Moss and Stallworth wouldn't the vertical passing of Bledsoe be a pretty good fit for this team?
Imagine the Pats are 8-2 and gearing up for the stretch run. Who would you lay your money on?
BS. He was fine with Brady when he was s 6th rounder who showed promise as a backup. I guarantee you though that given his druthers Drew would never have moved him past Huard who was his wingman. Drew was a big part of the entitlement culture BB had to stamp out here. You play because you earn the spot through your performance. Brady was so outperforming him in 2001 the decision was a no brainer on the merits, which is how BB makes those decisions. The team could have given him every rep from the first Rams game to the next Rams game and all it would have accomplished is hurting Brady and the team - Drew still would have been the same player he was prior to that fateful JETS game. And I believe Drew long ago clarified his remarks to indicate while he felt he was lied to, he never was in so many words.
His relationship with Brady was more a testament to the kid's poise and maturity and determination than anything on Drew's part.
He had no interest in Loseman when he was in Buffalo, let alone any desire to compete with him for a job. That was just Drew exit speak for I got screwed by a FO again. Had no use for Romo either - after all in Drewspeak this was his Tuna reunion tour (featuring Terry Glenn) where he was going to prove how wrong everyone had been about him in NE and Buffalo, and how wrong he had been earlier about Tuna. How'd that work out? His career ended on national TV at Parcells hand. Drew termed that decision "a mistake", and refused to even function as the backup thereafter. That was an appropriate ending to the urban legend of Drew as the team guy, along with Parcell's following him to pasture several weeks later. They were both egocentric personalities to whom the game mattered little unless they were front and center in it.
Wow! I guess I shouldn't expect anything but complete bias against Bledsoe from someone who's screen name is MoLewisRocks, but you are going way overboard.
I was a fan of Bledsoe when he was here, but I glad we got Brady over him. But I have to say you have a lot of venom towards Bledsoe that is clouding the facts as they were. Bledsoe for the most part until maybe the week of the Super Bowl pretty much held himself with class. The only real time he really showed his disdain was when Belichick chose Brady in the Super Bowl. Brady and Bledsoe were close for most of the season even when Bledsoe was holding the clipboard. Bledsoe did help Brady a lot during that season too.
It's not bias, it's honesty. I guess you never read Patriot Reign, and missed more recent comments by both Brady and Belichick when pressed allowing that Drew's relationship with both of them was challenging and strained. Drew maintained the facade in public for the most part, aside from calling the HC a liar, but behind the scenes he did little to hide his seething anger. At one point veteran players called him out over his sullen behavior in captains meetings. What kept the situation under manageable control was the determination of both a young QB and a savvy HC to not rise to the bait and basically work around him.
Entering the 2001 season this was still Drew's team. Midway through the season it became Belichick's when his veterans chose to support his decisions. By the end of the season it was Brady's team, not because he was drafted for the position but because he'd earned it's confidence.
And Brady is on record saying they were never close despite appearances. They developed a working relationsip born of necessity that went from cordial to strained to basically former acquaintance. They don't keep in touch these days because they were never like friends... Brady will always speak well of Drew publicly because that's who he is. Drew will always portray himself as the classy put upon victim because that's who he is and always was. Even his media toadies who had not yet bought into BB or Brady in 2002 and predicted a re-emergence in Buffalo, or surely in Dallas, now realize this, and give him credit not for what he did so much as for what he didn't do, which was flat out tear the team apart.
I don't hate Drew, I just see him for what he was and is. What I can't stand is seeing him romanticized into something he was not. He skipped the parade and ring ceremony for a reason. And my screen name doesn't celebrate Mo's hit but the franchise saving effect it had in allowing Belichick to turn to Brady with the requisite cover to establish himself rather than having to acrimoniously bench Drew's ass much like Tuna did in Dallas last season and have Drew's media toadies tear the team apart on his behalf, as they would have. Mo inadvertently with one clean hit won a small battle for the JETS and lost the war for the AFCE for years to come. I'm sure in hindsight Mo would like to have that hit back. Fortunately for us, he can't.
It's not bias, it's honesty. I guess you never read Patriot Reign, and missed more recent comments by both Brady and Belichick when pressed allowing that Drew's relationship with both of them was challenging and strained. Drew maintained the facade in public for the most part, aside from calling the HC a liar, but behind the scenes he did little to hide his seething anger. At one point veteran players called him out over his sullen behavior in captains meetings. What kept the situation under manageable control was the determination of both a young QB and a savvy HC to not rise to the bait and basically work around him.
Entering the 2001 season this was still Drew's team. Midway through the season it became Belichick's when his veterans chose to support his decisions. By the end of the season it was Brady's team, not because he was drafted for the position but because he'd earned it's confidence.
And Brady is on record saying they were never close despite appearances. They developed a working relationsip born of necessity that went from cordial to strained to basically former acquaintance. They don't keep in touch these days because they were never like friends... Brady will always speak well of Drew publicly because that's who he is. Drew will always portray himself as the classy put upon victim because that's who he is and always was. Even his media toadies who had not yet bought into BB or Brady in 2002 and predicted a re-emergence in Buffalo, or surely in Dallas, now realize this, and give him credit not for what he did so much as for what he didn't do, which was flat out tear the team apart.
I don't hate Drew, I just see him for what he was and is. What I can't stand is seeing him romanticized into something he was not. He skipped the parade and ring ceremony for a reason. And my screen name doesn't celebrate Mo's hit but the franchise saving effect it had in allowing Belichick to turn to Brady with the requisite cover to establish himself rather than having to acrimoniously bench Drew's ass much like Tuna did in Dallas last season and have Drew's media toadies tear the team apart on his behalf, as they would have. Mo inadvertently with one clean hit won a small battle for the JETS and lost the war for the AFCE for years to come. I'm sure in hindsight Mo would like to have that hit back. Fortunately for us, he can't.
Amazing.
The Bledsoe Krishna apologists for Drew never give up. Despite not one but three (3) instances of Drew NOT nurturing or developing young QBs when he was the man and failing time and again, the Bledsoe cult keeps on rationalizing.
Anyone at training camp in 2001 could see that Brady was WAY better than Bledsoe running the team. BB saw it and you can be sure that the vets whe weren't butt buddies saw it too. Thankfully, Moe Lewis enabled BB to make the move he wanted to make but at that time did not have the juice with his owner to do (BB was something like 5-13 at the time with Drew at the helm). Celebrating the Moe Lewis incident does not mean that harm is wished on Drew as a player or person. He's better off retiring rich and spending time with his family. In that family values aspect I am a Drew guy as opposed to a Brady's Lady.
Here is a Q&A from Michael Silver from SI (who is very close to Brady) from 2002:
Again, there are conflicting reports how much of a strain there was with Bledsoe and Brady and exactly when the relationship became frayed.
A lot more has come out since October of 2001, as is usually the case in these situations, and we likely won't hear the totally unvarnished truth until the Brady Belichick era in NE is over, if ever...
I understand that in his heart Drew thought he could have done it too. Unfortunately, that's just self delusion. This team was never going to win anything with him, no matter who coached him. And apparently no other team was going to win with him either, particularly if they had to face Belichick or an opponent who grasped what Belichick exposed as his weakness when he coached against him in NY. And if Belichick had been forced to bench him midway through the 2001 season, the team likely would have been little more than a shell even a wonderkid couldn't have salvaged at that point. And the media - many of whom were already anti Belichick based on their peers assessments in Cleveland, would have been calling not for Drew's head, but for Belichicks after back to back miserable seasons. That is the fate Mo Lewis likely saved us from.
And on that note, I'm done with this because if folks don't get it yet they never will.
IMHO, Bledsoe was a victim of his own tremendous talent. He never had to work at it to dominate in high school and he never had to work at it to dominate in college. His talent made him among the best of the best at those levels.Drew isn't a student of the game, just a tall guy with a strong arm who likes to play it on Sundays. If he can't play, he has no interest in going through the motions.
I always thought Bledsoe to Chicago would make sense... they are a good team with a horrible QB... but they aren't, like, a team building for the future. They can reasonably expect to make another Super Bowl run this coming year... so getting a QB to help win here and now would be an asset.
Yeah, that was what they said about Dallas under Parcells and Donahue's Bills. Just a QB away from a serious contender. Didn't pan out.
Can't say I remember many people saying Buffalo was "just a QB away" from being a serious contender in 2002... or anyone saying that about Dallas either...Yeah, that was what they said about Dallas under Parcells and Donahue's Bills. Just a QB away from a serious contender. Didn't pan out.
MoLewisrocks Again, you are giving me one side of the story. There are two sides of every story. If you can't get that you never will. If you listen to Asante Samuel and Deon Branch, they will tell you that Belichick and Pioli disrespected them and I am sure Belichick and Pioli will say they treated them fairly. And depending on who you talk to in the lockerroom, they will probably come down on different sides of the issue.
There are a lot of conflicting reports of what happened. You choose to only accept one side, but there is plenty of evidence in other situations that Belichick has had communication problems with his players (Ted Johnson leaving the team, Lawyer Milloy, Deon Branch and his contract negotiations, Ted Washington and the rumor he walked away from a new deal because of the way they handled the final stages of the deal). Yes, some of those guys were wrong in their own respect, but better communications skills might have made those situations different.
Belichick is the greatest coach ever, but even his most ardent supporters will agree that player relations is his weakest suit. It is very conceivable that Bledsoe's dissatisfaction and attitude was brought on at least in part by Belichick's poor handling of communicating with Bledsoe.
I am not one of the people who will always just automatically take sides with Belichick and the Pats on every little issue. There is a pattern here with Belichick that points to that he probably didn't handle the Bledsoe situation as well as he should. Then again, I am sure that Bledsoe should have handled it differently too. I am not going to just assign all the blame to anyone when there is a lot of ambiguity to the situation with conflicting stories.