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    I think that the Cafferty's, Sebelius', and assorted other "it's cuz he's black" people, need to STFU, cuz they're not doing Obama any favors by bringing up the race crap. Anyone who isn't going to vote for Obama cuz of race, isn't going to change their mind. Blaming racism, therefore insults the intelligence of the unbiased, undecided voter. It's similar to the people who see McLame's picking a woman as an insult. IMO, some may see the race card bit, in a similar way. Afterall, could people not like Obama cuz his policies are socialist, he has 140 odd days of national politics under his belt, has never run anything, and socialized with the real radical cats? Nah right? As someone who doesn't like either candidate, and who acknowledges that race is a factor, blaming race is not a good idea. It will anger people, as opposed to garner their sympathy.


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    If you cut through the crap, and all of the fluff Race is the issue.. america is afraid the black man ascending to power.. do not need anyone to say it..
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    Desperation is setting in, if he should lose the election they will riot, nobody is mentioning "race" but the nasty democrats, Geraldine Ferraro was the first, than the Holy Messiah himself brought it up whe he said he didn't look like any of the Presidents on the dollar bills Obama himself is a F-CKING RACIST one need look no further than to the Church he and his lovely wife attended for twenty years.

    If these nasty sore losing democrats want to talk about Race let them address the fact that 96% of Black American's are supporting the Black Candidate, thats real Racism.

    The best friends the Black Community ever had in the History of this country was "The Clintons", they stabbed the Clintons in the back and ran to Obama like a pack of Jackals, the Queen Of The Disloyal Back Stabbers Oprah Winfrey once said "I love the Clintons like my own Brother and Sister".
    Thats Real Racism.

    McCain/Palin had better get ready, the "Race Sh!t" is coming, the Democrat Bastards have it all ready.
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    Harry I thought this race was about Barbra Streisand and the hollywood wife swappers???
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    There is some question if independent white men, who are breaking disproportionately for McCain, could be shamed into voting for Obama. While the outright racist would not vote for Obama under any circumstance, there are a number of independents who claim they are not racist, they are enlightened, and so on. But, then these same people, say things like they won't vote for Obama because he's an empty suit or because his pastor said some controversial things or because he might be Muslim -- all things that would not be said if Obama was white. Some of these people could probably be shamed into considering Obama.

    To this way of thinking, if the race issue angers someone, it simply confirms that person's delusions that race is not an issue, and that person is usually a white conservative who would not consider voting for Obama anyway.
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    It's not about race. Its all about issues and where the candidates stand on them.
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    The problem will become is lots of people talk the talk, but when they put pen to paper or stylus to chad the fear of the Black man will kick in.. the polls will mean nothing..
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    The democrats are now lighting the coals of the Racism fire, they pray that it burns bright and strong, they have been hoping that the Republicans would light the match, they have been waiting but they can wait no longer so they themselves will start "The Race Sh!t" FLAMES.

    Americans aren't stupid, they know.

    GOD DAMN AMERICA
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    IF it were about the issues, McCain would have been down the shytter about a month ago, with or without Palin.. have yet to see an intelligent discussion about the issues.. instead the focus is on Ayers, Wright, what did he do in the spring of 1980, Oprah Winfrey, Streisand and the rest of the hollywood wife swappers.. in reality McCain is the same.. and this country is just another years of the "Bush Doctrine"... watch your 401k's and the rest of your investments, will not have to worry about Social Security Solvency there will be no other pensions available.
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    McCain has pushed to have "town-meeting" style meetings with Obama to discuss the issues. Obama refused to participate. Many of the stances that Obama has taken are the same stances that Kerry took in 2004 and lost. If anything is racist it is the thought that the Democrats believed the color of their candidate would over power the issues this time around.
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    Unfortunately, most right wingers have no credibility when it comes to issues of race. The fact that their convention had only 36 black delegates and that a huge majority of people of color support Democrats is proof of that.
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    The idea that no-one who isn't a racist would vote for McCain is so absurd on it's face that it's laughable. Nothing good will come out of accusing Republicans and Independents of being racist.
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    Right, cuz if Obam-uh was white, he wouldn't have been in a black church, listening to Black Liberation Theology, and a hate speech racist preacher. You're right on that one.

    My point isn't about race being an issue. Clearly it is for some negatively, just as it is for others positively. My point is about overplaying the "blame race" card. The more people lament about it being the reason why he won't be elected, the worse it is for Obama in my opinion. It's like the guy who constantly whines about the refs. Sure they fukc up, and are a factor, but after a while, no one wants to hear it anymore.
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    While I agree with you that indepth discussion about the issues is tremendously lacking (I have little confidence in McLame's ability to discuss them anyway), what makes you think that Obam-uh's positions make him attractive to the populace? Maybe people have heard Obam-uh's position on the issues (he still lacks specifics IMO), and are mortified. Liberal politicians have never faired well in presidential elections, so why is Obam-uh's candidacy any different?
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    Does anyone remember when Nixon lost an election because he looked like crap on TV? Let's face it ... call it racism, favoritism, stupidity ... call it what you like but personal aapearance factors into some people's choice of a President.

    So here's the rub ... why was it okay for women to vote for Clinton because he was handsome and not for Obama because he is black or because he has big ears.

    You can't have it both ways here lefties ... nobody complained when Clinton got the female vote because they thought he was handsome ... so stop complaining now. If looks were okay in one election then looks is a factor IN ALL ELECTIONS.

    This is typical lefty double speak .. talking out of their mouth and out of their arse at the same time. John Kerry had hair and botox work for his election, Hillary was getting botox for her primary ... I did not hear anyone complaining ... hypocrites.
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    All this sounds like idiotic dribble, and makes little sense in the context of this argument.. do not remember the Nixon stuff, he was a crook anyways.. we were talking about Obama not any of the rest of this crap, race is the issue..
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    It's all the same ... Clinton had alot of female vote because he was a handsome white guy. You know what I'm saying here ... you just choose to deflect it. Obama played up the I'm athletic and i work out crap because he thought he could pull a Clinton ... now that it did not work they are playing the race card. what a bunch of horse sh!t this is.
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    The democrats have been dying to get the race crap into this election, it is getting late so they have started it themselves, it will backfire on them.
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    I am not convinced that they are playing the race card, as not sure who they are.. the reality is that race is a huge issue here.. if there was a white man named Barry O'Brien with exactly the same upbringing and baggage McCain would be 10 points behind..
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    People have a right to vote how they choose ... and that's my point. I'm not going to agree with the voting theory of a skin head any more than I'm going to agree with the voting theory of a San Francisco liberal who lives in a tent. what's racist to you or me is not racist to another. if someone feels a black man should not be President ... then as an American they have that right even though many consider it wrong.

    That's why i used the Bill Clinton analogy. these same people crying the race card were jumping for joy looking at Clintons support amongst white women during his campaign ... that's hypocrisy and they are full of crap.
    They were calling him the 1st black President ... the same people now playing the race card ... bunch of sh!theads.

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