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    Barack Obama chief Rahm Emanuel drawn into Rod Blagojevich corruption investigation | Herald Sun

    What was Obama's Chief of Staff doing with the governor? I told you that Obama CARED about his Senate seat because he wanted to give it to somebody else. Otherwise, why did his chief of staff involve with the governor??????

    Some of you here are IGNORANCE. What do you have to say about yourself and Obama?
    I TOLD YOU SO
     
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    I will not say YOU'RE an idiot, NEP. I WILL say, however, that there is one pertinent sentence in your 11,000th post on this, and it's just about the only one you did not bold. It's the one in the first paragraph that says there was no indication of wrongdoing on the part of Emmanuel.

    Inasmuch as your contribution in this thread consists of "I told you so" and your selective bolding, I rate this thread

    EPIC FAIL

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    #87 Jersey

    Even John McCain said trying to make this an Obama witch hunt is wrong ... we have other problems. I doubt Obama did anything wrong here.
     
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    Why did Obama's Chief of Staff TALKED to the governor if Obama didn't care who gets his senate seat?

    Sure, there is nothing wrong with 'suggesting' the governor about who is the best candidate for Obama's Senate seat. Instead of spending time to fix this country problem, Obama is concerned about his senate seat.
     
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    You really believe coordination within the same political party, even in the absence of immoral, unethical, or illegal behavior, is a criminal offense, or for that matter anything worthy of posting about?
     
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    I'll let others decide whether it's a criminal offense or not. Please do not tell me that Obama is your 'Savior' because he is as 'crooked' as others.

    He talked alot about 'change' during his campaign and i'm not impressed with his 'changes' because of what i have seen lately.

    Can somebody answer my question?

    Why did Obama's Chief of Staff TALKED to the governor if Obama didn't care who gets his senate seat?
     
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    I'll call him an idiot because he is one. Why the hell would the DEMOCRATIC President's Chief of Staff NOT talk to the Democratic governor about who they want in the Senate seat??

    Your own post undermines what you are saying. I can't believe there are people as dumb as this walking our streets.
     
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    And you came to the question with such an open mind. :rolleyes:

    Obama's not my savior, messiah, or any other stupid wing-nut description of enthusiasm for a leader. He's a smart man, a particularly sober thinker, and someone who sees underlying causes. I think we could have used one of them the last 8 years, and it's good that the nation at large has moved beyond gossip-as-politics.

    I don't mind that there are dinosaurs out there that still don't "get it," who believe we are in an identical place to where we were when a gossip site pretty much took down a president for getting ahem Hoovered.

    We have serious problems to face. The attempted "issues" the wing-nuts are trying to raise at present are idiotic, and the people know it.

    Didn't you guys ever read "The Boy Who Cried Wolf"?

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    By doing so, Obama VIOLATES the rule. He CAN NOT INTERFERE IN THE PROCESS.

    I can't believe that some people believe in Obama so much that they can't see the difference between the darkness and light. I hope that you don't jump off the bridge because of your future DISAPPOINTMENT.
     
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    I don't believe in Obama at all. What "rule" are you talking about?
     
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    The problem with you is you are DESPERATE for change and you don't care who gets in the WH.

    You can't see 'right' from 'wrong' or 'good' from 'evil'. You are happy that Bush is gone and that's all you want.

    Yes, we have 'serious' issues to face. Why the hell did Obama send his chielf of staff to worry about his 'old Senate' seat when he should focus on the current problem?

    Are you telling me that Obama senate seat is more important than the current crisis?????

    You'll never answer questions.
     
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    Still waiting on what "Rule" he broke......
     
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    Black and White? Your subconscious betrays you.
     
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    It's the Governor's job to decide who gets Obama Senate seat. Why did he tell the governor about the list of people whom he likes to have his seat?

    Obama has to respect the process and allow it to play itself.
     
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    The sad thing is that what you have against Obama is not politics. It is hate.
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    So he didn't break a rule? Got it.

    Why the hell shouldn't he give his input? It's the DEMOCRATIC governor's job to fill the seat, there is absolutely nothing wrong or unethical about consulting the DEMOCRATIC President and FORMER senator on who should fill his seat.

    Seriously, take some time and go read something, you obviously don't know what the hell you are talking about, as usual.

    In fact, here's a challenge for you; find me ONE just ONE example of a governor who didn't consult his/her party and/or the former senator on filling a vacant seat. I'm going to guess you can't find one. Do you know why? Because THEY DO IT EVERY TIME and there's nothing unethical whatsoever about doing it.

    Now if you want to argue that governors should not be responsible for filling these seats, you may have an argument, but trying to pin some kind of blame on Obama or Emmanuel for giving their lists, something that happens every single time, then you are going to continue to come off like you are pathetically desperate and don't know what you are talking about.

    And please, spare me the "you are just blinded by the messiah" deflection because I'm on record that I didn't even vote for the guy.

    You fail. move on.
     
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    "You'll never answer question"??? THIS is what I waste leisure time on? LOL.

    First of all, I think for very good reasons, and I think very well elaborated reasons, that this nation needs to move to the left. The best-recognized and most obvious reason is that we've been run by extreme rightists for eight years and their policies have resulted in disasterous failures. The "moderate" rightist ticket this time around clearly displayed its gimmick-oriented nature and lack of depth, a fact not lost on the electorate.

    "Desperate" for change? Nope, I don't care much for the mantra. I do believe change for the better is coming, and I do like the pres-elect specifically for his sobriety and coolness. I have actually also come to believe that his centrist approach is better for the country right now than a candidate who is truly on the left, such as a Nader, or for that matter Kucinich. For many years it's been clear that the agenda of the right is a basket of fairy tales: Lies about WMD; lurching from bubble to bubble to create a "good life" that's just a nationwide version of a "rent to own" furniture store; a society that ignores the people as a whole in favor of childish stories about how every man is an island and there's no need for a safety net; stupid arguments about how other people should use their genitals. Of course I want change. And of course, Obama is delivering half a loaf.

    But as I've said, I have come around on this subject. I think it will be a bridge to nudge America in the right direction, while delivering those aspects of an "ideal" agenda that become thinkable given the shocks we're currently undergoing. Health insurance, for example, being considered a right rather than the priviledge of some people and not others... and the provision of services capitated not by the gold-plating on one's insurance, but by need.

    So this stupid, in-passing "the problem with you..." personal attack makes an awful lot of assumptions, assumptions I think you'd be hard-pressed to demonstrate. If anything I'd say you're the one flailing around like a fish in the boat bottom, posting any panicky tripe he can grab from the right-wing blogosphere to oppose a president-elect prior to his taking office.

    Your boy put us in an unpopular war, continued disasterous economic policies meant to align America with a 19th century purist theory that's been repeatedly debunked, and then, when it didn't work, fell all in love with Socialist nationalization of the banks -- something that, by the way, was indeed necessary. He presided over the continuing deregulation of the financial sector that made this "straw that broke the camel's back" bubble possible. And now I am pretty damn happy we don't have another idiotic right wing demagog running things like his own personal reality show, sure. Remember McCain riding in on a white horse to effectively add 115 billion in "sweeteners" (pork) to a rescue plan that already cost 700 billion bucks... all to satisfy supposedly fiscally conservative House Republicans? Yeah, I can live without that kind of "leadership."

    I find Obama pretty impressive so far. I wish him the best, and I have hope for a better America. I also know the next couple of years are going to be tough and would be tough regardless of who was elected. But I feel a damn sight better with the guy we did elect than I think I would with the alternatives.

    You need to get your head around the fact that we have quite a bit of serious business to consider over the next few years. I know you probably won't, and you'll just go into a daily search for dirt, and crow that you found a picture of Obama with a cigarette and that sort of thing.

    The right wing is a joke already, and its time has passed. I sincerely hope they continue to demonstrate their irrelevance over these four years, because I do hope for eight years of continued Democratic rule.

    Maybe then the wing-nuts will do us all a favor and turn 6.

    PFnV
     
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    Same old shyt different day, remember the rule the more times you post something that has no legs the more it becomes true, so keep assuming that things are not what they really are and keep posting stuff that makes no sense.. but no matter how many times you say the same thing over and over again it is not true.

    If Emmanuel did not meet with Blogav??itch about this I would be surprised.. it is politics.. there is nothing to suggest that Obama and his staff did not do anything wrong.. Fitzpatrick said so, if there was an inpropriety on the part of Obama and Emmanuel it would have already come out in the indictment..
     
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    You didn't answer my question and I expected it. You always use the current crisis as a lame excuse to 'support' whatever obama is doing even though he doesn't want to show his REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE and meddles in a Chicago governor's business when he shouldn't do that.

    Everybody wants to see changes but you have to do it within the laws and constitution. Because Bush bypassed some of the laws, it doesn't give your Obama the rights to do so. Infact, it only confirms that Obama is as crooked as others. You don't understand this simple fact because of your hatred of Bush. It reflects your poor JUDGEMENT.

    How is Obama going to uphold and defend the constitution when he ignores it?

    How is Obama going to concern about 'you' when he only worries about his 'old' senate seat?

    How far are you going to let Obama do whatever he wants in the name of changes?


    You and other Obama's supporters will never understand these questions but what you will see is the same 8 years and this time is going to be worse if you continue supporting a guy who is dishonest and crooked.
     
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