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    if true....

    No wonder everyone hates us.....We are not a nation that outsources crusades. We are not a nation that outsources murder in the name of obstructing justice. How did we the people accept a mercinary force that wages a holy war, answerable to only the Secretary of Defense, The Vice President and the President? What has been going on?


    Blackwater Founder Implicated in Murder


    A former Blackwater employee and an ex-US Marine who has worked as a security operative for the company have made a series of explosive allegations in sworn statements filed on August 3 in federal court in Virginia. The two men claim that the company's owner, Erik Prince, may have murdered or facilitated the murder of individuals who were cooperating with federal authorities investigating the company. The former employee also alleges that Prince "views himself as a Christian crusader tasked with eliminating Muslims and the Islamic faith from the globe," and that Prince's companies "encouraged and rewarded the destruction of Iraqi life."
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    Interesting development.. always considered Blackwater as parallel/threat to our gov't instead of a contractor.. too big, too much firepower...

    But then maybe I take "24" too seriously..
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    “The former employee, identified in the court documents as ‘John Doe #2,’ is a former member of Blackwater’s management team, according to a source close to the case,” Scahill noted. “Doe #2 alleges in a sworn declaration that, based on information provided to him by former colleagues, ‘it appears that Mr. Prince and his employees murdered, or had murdered, one or more persons who have provided information, or who were planning to provide information, to the federal authorities about the ongoing criminal conduct.’ John Doe #2 says he worked at Blackwater for four years; his identity is concealed in the sworn declaration because he ‘fear violence against me in retaliation for submitting this Declaration.’ He also alleges, ‘On several occasions after my departure from Mr. Prince’s employ, Mr. Prince’s management has personally threatened me with death and violence.’”
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    There's nothing like a little selective reading of religious texts to justify crusades and the destruction of other nations for the sake of profit.

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    Wow, this reminds me of The Insider. Great movie, by the way. We should get John Doe #2 Michael Mann's contact information.
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    Blackwater was allegedly profiting by smuggling weapons into Iraq as well.

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    Jeremy Scahill is one of the true heroes of modern, dying journalism.

    Certain people -- even right here on this forum -- would prefer that the 4th Estate was silenced and never held Christie-fascists accountable. Fortunately, some segments of the press DID their job, and continue to expose the empire.

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    It gets even better.

    Blackwater accused of murder in 'crusade to eliminate Muslims' - Times Online
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    Dahr Jamail Honored for Iraq War Reporting | Peace Action Maine
    With a conscience like this perhaps modern journalism should die. Is Jesse Macbeth John Doe 1 or John Doe 2?
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    Took a while to figure this one out, but here is what you are saying... Dahr Jamail is bad, because of what he writes about ... Jeremy Scahill in the past has spoken well about Dahr Jamail.. therefore what Jeremy Scahill wrote about Blackhawk is bad or not valid.. faulty logic 101.

    So if Erik Prince did kill someone in the name of god it is ok, because Jeremy Scahill who wrote a scathing book on Blackwater.. did Rush say that???
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    He is bad because he help promote a fraudelent claim against the US military and has an anti us agenda. :rolleyes:

    IOW the guy is a liar.
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    Because RUSH said so, don't you know?
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    I'm not a partisan boob like you. I don't read books that I think agree with my worldview.

    "He who knows only his side of the argument knows little of that." ~ John Stuart Mill

    You semi-educated people think you're educated when really you're not.
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    Heard Scahill on the radio last night, he said he had this story for years but could never get anyone on the record.

    He also predicts that on Friday, this case might be tossed out by the conservative judge in the DC area. If so, I will be livid. Its something like 6 cases wrapped into one. He didn't sound like a guy who thought this was going anywhere. he used the phrase "Power tends to side with power" Talked a LOT about the roots of Eric Prince, his family being hard core rightwingers. So much so, that he initially refused to deal with teh bush regime, because it wasn't conservative enough for him...

    I'm paraphrasing at best...wasn't taking notes on his statements while driving, strictly for safety.
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    Yes, you most certainly are a partisan boob. Don't kid yourself.

    Considering your plethora of racist undertones throughout this forum, you come off as far from semi-educated... In the wrong direction.

    Do get over yourself, jaggie.
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    How is it a fraudulent claim? What does Xe have to do with the military? What are they lying about, specifically?

    Liar.
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    So Erik Prince did not commit murder, still do not get it..
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    It is because of Skahill's past record of not vetting stories and collaborating with others known to have fabricated stories that causes me to have reasonable doubt as to if the John Does even exist. Until they are identified, I will remain skeptical of the alleged claims.
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    You pointed to one possibility, are there that many??? Have a very difficult time with Erik Prince and the empire he created...
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    What does Scahill's reputation have to do with the lawsuit? He's only reporting on it. There are several other outlets reporting the same thing, and you can easily read the claims made and the statement on John Doe. I highly doubt any litigation would go this far with a non-existent claimant.
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    Exactly...

    It doesn't matter, because Busy League loyalists are going to deny deny deny all the way, and then disappear when ultimate accountability is ever held. It's what they do.

    Don't expect any critical analysis or deductive reasoning out of a pro-war zealot.

    Crusade = good. ... Investigative reporting = bad. ... We get it.
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    He did say he had this story for YEARS and couldn't report on it because nobody came forward. Until these guys filed this week, he couldn't come out with anything.


    sounds like a solid reporter to me.
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    In some worlds it is called corroberation.. a very good journalistic technique.
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    Blackwater Founder Implicated in Murder

    Skahill's own article states they "cannot independently verify the identities of the two individuals, their roles at Blackwater or what motivated them to provide sworn testimony" . Good journalistic techique indeed.

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