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Blackwater’s Erik Prince to step down, reveals CIA role

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  1. Holy Diver

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    January 2010: Adam Ciralsky on Blackwater | vanityfair.com

    For the past six years, Prince "appears to have led an astonishing double life," writes Adam Ciralsky. "Publicly, he has served as Blackwater’s CEO and chairman. Privately, and secretly, he has been doing the CIA’s bidding, helping to craft, fund, and execute operations ranging from inserting personnel into 'denied areas'—places US intelligence has trouble penetrating—to assembling hit teams targeting al-Qaeda members and their allies."

    Ciralsky reports that Prince became a CIA "asset," or spy, who became a "Mr. Fix-It" in the war on terror.

    "Prince wasn’t merely a contractor; he was, insiders say, a full-blown asset," Ciralsky reports. "Three sources with direct knowledge of the relationship say that the CIA’s National Resources Division recruited Prince in 2004 to join a secret network of American citizens with special skills or unusual access to targets of interest. As assets go, Prince would have been quite a catch. He had more cash, transport, matériel, and personnel at his disposal than almost anyone Langley would have run in its 62-year history."



    This guy is quite possibly one of the top 10 WORST humans. How'd that 'war on terror' go?

    thanks Eric, you frickin PRICK!
     
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    He is also implicated in a murder...

    A former intern under George H. Bush..

    Cheated on his wife who had cancer, with his kids nanny..

    Been involved in a ton of controversies..

    But the billions keep flowing to his company...

    Interesting bedfellows these defense contractors... the military industrial complex rocks big time... they are our enemy.
     
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    Sucks to the billionth degree when someone like this is on OUR side, fighting AGAINST the terrorists?


    WTF?


    I'm sure all the people he killed or had killed are cool with it, they probably will never seek vengence against teh United States. He has not put our nation into further danger by his actions....

    yeah...right.




    Who exactly is our enemy?
     
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    Interestingly enough his father is one of the wealthiest people in the world... combined with how much the US paid him over the years, he will allude the justice system and if he goes to trial will beat it...

    These guys literally make me sick to my stomach....
     
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    Blackwater= modern day praetorian guard.
     
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    Don't forget fundamentalist Christian God Squadder, and self-admitted Crusader.

    But don't say any of that... You'll upset 28 percenters who worship him.
     
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    Kill Him.....
     
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    Erik Price epitomes what it means to be a Patriot. God bless him and those like him. I am proud he is an American.
     
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    So, if the view of the average 28 percenter, advocating and fostering the murder of innocent brown people of other faiths and cheating on your sick wife is the epitomy of what it means to be a Patriot... Noted.
     
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    DOn't know much about the killings in Iraq, we will never know whether they were being set up by insurgents who were trying to avoid these guys.

    As to the rest of the article. Sounds like a great guy too bad we didn't kill the scum like AQ Khan and the others. I WANT PEOPLE KILLING AL QUEDA OPERATIVES.

    I also found this part of the article interesting I am limied by the 4 sentence rule here:


    Thanks to the idiot pols who protect terrorist and stab americans like this in the back.
     
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    Not quite sure how anyone can defend this guy who has literally defrauded the US of billions of dollars and is now implicated in a murder...

    Not sure how anyone can give these guys benefit of the doubt, he has not been tried, but the exploits of Blackwater now Xe are very known...

    Bush's Shadow Army (Page 2)

    Fox News Weighs in, so this has to be right..

    Two Informants Accuse Blackwater Founder of Murder, Other Crimes - FOXNews.com

     
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    Fox reported anon informants, we know nothing of their credibility.

    You seem to view contracts as proof of fraud in and of themselves. If they were getting contracts to assassinate Al Queda with the money hidden in other contracts I consider this money well spent if they got the job done.
     
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    No one is surprised you would indirectly advocate murder and fraud for the mere possibility of "fighting terror." We get it.

    But thanks for re-establishing your position. 28 percenters can never have quite enough explosions and gunfire. ... To hell with any innocents who "should know better" than to get in the way.
     
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    Not to get into the whole evil or good argument or anything, but how exactly has he "defrauded" America of anything? His company was approached to provide a service, and was paid to provide a service. You may find that service repugnant, and you may not like how he provided it, but I'm not sure your using the correct verbiage here. Fraud has nothing to do with it.

    He didn't "defraud" anyone. He was paid to provide a service......... and he provided it. Too well in some cases, but still....... you ge the point.
     
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    I do not get the point, Blackwater is not a good american organization and the bad seems to outweigh the good... Prince is a very rich powerful man, who has ties to the highest level of Government, his agenda is a right wing christian one .. he was an intern under George H. Bush and was concerned as the President was talking to gay advocates and climate change people...

    Rep. Henry Waxman Levels Tax Fraud Allegations Against Blackwater - Politics | Republican Party | Democratic Party | Political Spectrum - FOXNews.com

    Democrat calls for Blackwater probe, alleges tax fraud - The Boston Globe

    TPMmuckraker | Talking Points Memo | State Dept Document from 2005 Shows Fraud in Blackwater's Iraq Contract

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    Blood Is Thicker Than Blackwater

    Blackwater: Hired Guns, Above the Law

     
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    "paid to provide a service" ... :rolleyes: that's rich.

    this man is a sociopath... a brilliant business man, and likely a great organizer of men... but a sociopath.

    what kind of Christian Crusader cheats on his dying wife with the nanny and gets her pregnant? Seems to me at that point, you're no longer required as a "Soldier of God." ...

    Just live out your millions in quiet anonymity, Prince.
     
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    Wonder if he viewed his activity as the 10th Crusade???
     
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    You don't? :confused:

    Dude............. you said "Not quite sure how anyone can defend this guy who has literally defrauded the US of billions of dollars and is now implicated in a murder.." and that a totally DISHONEST statement. You do know the definition of defraud, correct?

    Lemme help: It means to illegally obtain money from someone or something through deceptive means.

    Say what you will about his moral compass, the services his company provided, that you think he is a murderer or that the government should not be hiring out such services. Those are separate issues, but by using dishonest characterizations about someone in that way, you change the narrative.

    Bernie Madoff defrauded people.

    Erik Prince was a master mercinary and black ops services provider that was legitimately (in a legal sense) contracted to do some very "dark arts" crap (along with some very legitimate civilian security services) by the US government.

    The two ain't remotely similar.

    Again, you may disagree with the services, how he provided them and all of that, but it's simply dishonest to say he "defrauded" anyone. The people paying him (government) knew exactly what they were getting for their money.

    Another typical "72%er" :rolleyes: perspective that intertwines personal traits (crappy as they may be) and political or religious thought together and treats them the same for political convenience. It's BS, because....... people do really sh!tty things on a personal level, but it doesn't (always) extend fully to their professional/political lives.

    Look at your boy O, he sat quietly in church for many years, claims he moved by deep spiritual faith, yet has supported policies in the past that would essentially allow doctors to coat-hanger a baby right up to the point it's head starts to crown. Not exactly keeping with HIS GOD'S teachings, is it. It doesn't in and of itself make him evil, it makes him inconsistent personally and professionally.

    Point is, and this escapes you 72%er's :rolleyes: , That specific inconsistancy is offensive to only half of us. The rest of you think "what's the big deal"? There is little point in linking what someone does for a living, and their personal failings........ you'll find nothing but disappointment.......... ACROSS THE BOARD almost all of the time. Tiger Woods says hi as well :)
     
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    That's all fabulous. Unfortunately for your premise here, he is diabolical in BOTH his personal life and his professional life.

    What about that don't you seem to understand with the very justified contempt for a man like Erik Prince? Are you unaware of the cases against him and his former business? There's a reason it changed CEO and its name you know.

    Oh, and please don't reference Obama as my boy. NOt only is it offensive, he does not have my support right now at all. So you're both rude, AND misguided.
     
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    You peeps who think Eric Price is a crusaider and or a 'real american' need to check your heads...


    "who would Jesus shoot in the back of the head for coming forward with information about how Jesus murdered dozens of innocent Iraqi citizens....?"


    ??????????????????????????
     

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