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    You'll all be begging for him to declare come January, and you'll be declaring him your binky.

    I'm just making you all aware, I was first, as I was with Vollmer.

    :cool:
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    He's been discussed at length, and has been on my short list for a long, long time. Not sure he's reached binky status yet, but he's definitely in the top group of guys to watch. And the way he's started the season, he'll not only declare, he'll be a top 20 pick. I personally consider him the second coming of Justin Smith.
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    I just watched some tape on him, OMG I'm loving his burst off the line! Binkie status fast approaching!
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    Ah crap, another guy to get attached to that the Pats will never have a chance at.
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    I have also been aware of him for a long time, but i personally prefer brandon jenkins.
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    Also number one on my wish list but I think he'll go top 10. Only reservation with him is that he's dropped quite a lot of weight - I wonder whether this will detract from his abilities against the run. He's got 5.5 sacks so far this season I believe. Here's another ridiculous stat for you: Geno Smith has thrown more TD's than incompletions so far this season! Do I hear RGIII rise?
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    I saw your Tweet last night, and I agree. He's stupendous in the run game.

    I just hope that someone like the Eagles don't get their hands on him and play him as a DT or what have you.
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    If he continues to play at this level, he will be out of reach for the Pats- Top10 pick.
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    I remember you being one of the first on the Solder train, but not so much with Vollmer.

    Oh, that reminds me, Nick Caserio et al. need to send Werner some, ahem, brownies come Combine time. . . .
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    I think Vollmer's my claim to fame on here! Wes Bunting noted how fluid he looked in the Shrine Game practices a few years ago, I did some homework and he became insta-binky.

    Just a shame his back is made out of sawdust. He's one of the best OT's in the league when he's on his game.

    NE Pats Draft has been tweeting again tonight about this game, really looking forwards to it. It'd be just like Werner to have a stinker now! Gotta love the Germans though, they may be on to a loser when it comes to taking over the free world, but their people are amongst the most noble, hard working and reliable. Their sportsmen are phenomenal. If you're a soccer fan, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.....
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    1 ~ Big fan of yours, Brother Brit, but I gotta correct you, on your lofty and unfortunately euphonious claims: My boy, Brother Mayo, has been onto Werner since way back in the day!! Carefull!! :nono:

    2 ~ But if you were Made The Call on the somewhat obscure Sebastian Vollmer, back in the day, congratulations are very much in order, Brother Brit!! :rocker:

    Was it that you mocked him to us, or did you fire up a Scouting Report on'm? Or both?? :eek:
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    Having lived there twice (Dusseldorf and Berlin during the seventies [Soviet tanks etc]), I'm going to agree with you. Jokingly much maligned by the Brits but the Germans are as friendly a people as I've met.
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    Can't quite remember. I'll do a forum search and link the few posts.

    My step-mother is German (my father was in the Army and was stationed in Dortmund in the 70's and 80's - when he came out he stayed over there and remarried) and she's adorable. I went over a few years after my dad had a heart attack, and I loved it. I really want to go again, along with the family.
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    Beautifull place. Astonishingly clean.

    I was stationed in Mainz ~ Lee Barracks ~ and two of the best memories were getting lost in Mainz. One of them was downtown, and I roamed around, late at night ~ possibly in an inebriated glow :D ~ peering in the front of random storefronts that looked like they'd been there since 1327....and quite possibly had been!! :eek:

    I actually have a 1/64th same blood 6th Cousin ~ we share the same Great Great Great Great Great Great GrandFather, give or take!! ~ who lives in DusselDorf ~ she's an Horse Doctor!! ~ who my Freulein and I visited, once...traveling down the Rhein and seeing Lorelei, HeidelBerg Castle, and all that is a trip I won't soon forget.
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    Box was one of the most vocal Vollmer supporters on this board prior to the 2009 draft. Man I miss him.

    Werner is a stud. No doubt about it. He and Chandler Jones would make an incredibly awesome pair of bookend DEs, and Werner would also be dominant in a NASCAR package.
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    What ever happened to Box? The draft forum isn't the same without him. Last I saw he posted earlier in the year over at Patriots Planet, but I haven't seen anything since then. I hope everything is ok and he makes a mayo-like epic return because he was a great contributor.
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    I understand he had health problems, but I don't know the details. I PM'd him in May, but he never replied. There are far more important things than football and I hope first and foremost that he is well, or on the road to wellness. But I will always regard him as one of the best and brightest ever on this board, and I hope he is well enough to come back at some point.
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    There are quite a few 4-3 de types whom might be available when we pick. I like Ninko. But, he's not really suited for this new defense. Right now my first round possibilities are;
    Werner
    B. Mingo - LSU
    S. Montgomery - LSU
    W.Gholston - Mich St
    J. Jeffcoat - Texas
    D. Taylor - South Carolina

    Some very good prospects who could become 1st rounders.

    D. Jordan - Oregon
    B. Jenkins - FSU - If he passes physical at the combine
    A. Okafor - Texas
    C. Washington - Georgia - No Jarvis Jones but he's pretty good.
    J. Simon - Ohio St - I know. Too short. Great motor though.
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    Bjorn Werner - 10 top pick
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    Top 15 likely as things currently stand. Top 10 is always a bit of a gamble, especially this far out.

    But as much as I like Werner - and I've been following him for a while - I think that his teammate Cornelius "Tank" Carradine may end up being better. Carradine has just as much power and strength, is a bit more fluid in space, and is bigger. He would make a tremendous bookend to Chandler Jones.
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    Dion Jordan will be the Bruce Irvin of the 2013 NFL Draft.
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    Or the Chandler Jones. Don't forget, Chandler Jones was being talked of as a 3rd rounder, even as late as January.
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    Or the Dion Jordan.

    Some fellows just don't have a comparable.
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    I think Tank Carradine will do a Chandler Jonese-esque rise up draft boards. I think Dion Jordan is a unique player - I'm hoping that his uniqueness will hurt rather than help his draft stock, as most teams won't know what to do with him or how to categorize him.
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    I think a 3-4 team will snap him up as an OLB - seems like a perfect fit. The hope would rest on the number of rushers potentially available - the depth goes right in to the second round with the likes of Lemonier, Chase Thomas, Michael Buchanan and of course Carradine. You need to hope that ALL the Juniors declare so that GM's are picking from the most abundant buffet possible.

    By the by, just been watching FSU/ Clemson - falling further in love with Carradine. He plays the run and the edge beautifully as well as having a good pass rush, particularly by using his long arms. Actually starting to wonder whether he might be better than Chandler Jones. It might come down to the combine but to me, Carradine's tape is better than I considered Jones'.
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    You already know that I agree with you about Carradine, of course.

    And here's hoping your hope for Jordan's projections comes to be!! :rocker:
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    My GrandMother's Tape is better than Jones'!! [​IMG]

    Let's be real, now: Jones rose based on Tape we didn't get to see, on Coach's testimony, on a great Combine, and on other information that we simply aren't privy to. He did not rocket up through the ranks based on that awful Tape that the likes of us ~ and those clowns on TeleVision ~ had access to: Based on that crap, he was Day 3 ~ UFA material.

    It was surreal, listening to that donkey on the Draft Show ~ whoever it was. Mayock?? I hope not ~ prattle on about Jones doing this and that "in the video" and showing such Burst and Explosion and all, while the camera showed him doing nothing but stumbling and bumbling, stiffly and straight up...

    As all ought know long before now, Jones was working his way back from injury last year ~ hence his awful Tape.

    But leave us not use that horrible footage as a point of comparison, I beg of you!! [​IMG]
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    Right now NFL Draftscout has Carradine and Jordan as their #10 and #11 DE prospects, both rated as 2nd/3rd round picks. Carradine is ranked 66 overall, Jordan 75. There are several guys ahead of them who I don't think will be as good pros (John Simon, Michael Buchanon, Alex Okafor), so there's definitely room for them to move up.
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