Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by Disco Volante, Feb 4, 2008.
A good article. It made me feel better. You know, I never once gave a thought to how the Rams felt back in 2001 (as I shouldn't have), so this part really rang true.
The Giants deserved to win. They were better. They peaked at the right time. And watching their fans celebrate afterward, a small part of me actually felt happy for them. Envious, even. It's one thing to win a championship ... it's another to win a championship like that. You can't possibly understand unless it happens to you.
Remember how we felt that day? Perhaps we've come too far?
By the way, in the other "temp forums" I posted a thread entitled "19-0 is impossible, because I don't think any team can handle the pressure, at least nowadays. This passage kinda confirms it
I agree with that.
Thanks for the link.
Helped me as well, always good to have your fellow fans to mourn with.
Let me guess, there's a whole lot of revisionist "I should have seen this coming" or "you could tell in the second quarter the Giants were going to win" crap. It is Bill Simmons, afterall.
The funny thing is that if Asante catches a ball he should never drop or one of the three guys tugging on Eli's jersey actually took him down NE wins and they would have been a team of destiny that was never really in any threat of losing.
I prefer reporting on what happened rather than predicting what will, but Simmons ALWAYS makes things out to have been destined.
But this time he turned out to be right
Simmons always writes about destiny, and karma & the football gods, and all of that stuff. It's part of what makes his writing so colorful, and fun to read.
You have to admit, there were some STRANGE things going on in that game. Not least of which, which I found really eerie, that the Giants scored the go-ahead TD with 11:06 left in the 4th, and the Pats scored theirs with 11:05 left in the 4th in week 17. The rest of both games played out differently, but it was kind of bizarro world, as Simmons writes, as was the fact that this year, it was the Giants beating "the greatest show on turf," while things went full circle for the Pats since '01.
I hate Bill Simmons. In that article he says he knew that it would be close. This, after predicting a 42-17 win. Like someone else said, his M.O. is pure revisionist history designed to make him look smart. Clearly, he doesn't understand the game very well. He should stick to basketball.
typical simmons article. I used to love him, but ever since ESPN gave him that gig he has basically been everything everyone hates about the Boston sports fan. He is the stereotype that casts us all in that light. His," even in losing, I still won because I predicted it crap" is old. His passive aggressive digs at the giants "luck.. bounces.. luck... bounces" is transparent. He should just leave them out. You make your own luck. He should know that. You wonder why us sox/pats fans have so many trolls? Yes, a lot is jealousy because of success, but moreso, at its root, its because of people like simmons as the unofficial voice of the New Englander. Have some dignity, Bill. You didnt need to stay up til 5am to write a ranting piece about how your father feels. Its as if he thinks he (and we) are bigger than the game. that is why people hate us.
That's the other thing that bothered me. What luck? What bounces? The Giants physically dominated on defense, and made all the critical plays on offense. Did we win in 2001 b/c of "luck and bounces"? Clearly not. Like you said, I think ESPN uses him as some sort of Boston Sports Everyman, but 99% of the time, he doesn't speak for me.
its amazing. was it luck that pierre woods fell on that fumble and lost it in the pile? was is a bounce? No, it was the fact that the other guy was hungrier, or stronger, or whatever. Deal with it Simmons.
Was it luck that asante and merriweather whiffed on picks on the final drive? Was it a "bounce?". The only bounce I saw was off their fingertips.
Where was the luck or the bounce on the missed sack opportunity on the tyree play? What I saw was something we saw flashes of all season, even throughout all the wins. Poor tackling, limited intensity, and not going all out until the whistle. what luck! ::rolls eyes::
This article, is exactly why you dont give a man who just watched the most crushing defeat I can remember since october 25, 1986, a typrewriter 5 minutes after it happened. He says in that article that he wishes he could take some of his earlier columns back. Ironic, because he should take this one back as well. Hang it up for a couple of days, gather your thoughts...
look, we are all gonna say things we will regret over the next few days. Some will rationalize, make excuses, others will overcompensate the opposite extreme by calling for the head of everybody in the organization. There is a happy medium, and if you are representing US, make sure you are there before you pick up a pen.
My favorite line from Simmons. O-line didn't show up at all during the game, but they really did not make ANY adjustments that made the Pats such a good 2nd half team this year.
"One moment in the second quarter stood out: when the Pats blew an easy third-and-1 from their own 42. For the first three months of the season, back when they were the Big, Bad, Invincible Pats, that would have been two-down territory for them -- they would have thrown on third down and maybe even tried to make a big play. If they didn't get it, they would have banged it past the chain on the next play. This time? They played it safe, ran Maroney to the left side, lost two yards and quickly sent out the punt team while every Pats fan turned into the confused wife from "Airplane" who couldn't understand why her husband had ordered the second cup of coffee."
That series also really pissed me off. The correct play to run on 2nd-and-2 would have been play-action from a tight formation. If there had been nothing down-field, then the RB would have served as the check-down. Worst case, they should have gone I-formation on 3rd AND 4th down. Passive play-calling and execution.
Maybe he's referring to the blocked field goal returned for a touchdown in Pittsburgh? IDK. I agree with what you said about The Sports Guy. His act is getting old. His style hasn't changed. He's a lot like Family Guy, just throwing in random analogies in his articles that aren't really necessary. It works on TV, not online.
Why do I read him then? (cause I know someone was going to say it) I don't.
Bill Simmons has Jumped the Shark, and it has been that way for a while.
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