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  1. DarrylS

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    Mike Reiss just twittered that Bill O'brien will be O coordinator and QB coach..

    Patricia to Safeties Coach..

    Patrick Graham now LB Coach..

    Wonder if BB will still be the D Coordinator???..
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    Re: According to Reiss we have an offensive coordinator..coaching changes

    So we're sending the putative defensive brainchild-in-training to coach the safeties.

    Curiouser and curiouser....
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    Re: According to Reiss we have an offensive coordinator..coaching changes

    It may make sense, as he needs to know the subleties of more than one position.. he still may be heir apparent. Or is it Pepper???
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    Re: According to Reiss we have an offensive coordinator..coaching changes

    That seems a little overstated, no?

    I don't think they need to be saved. I think they need to have their potential realized. Maybe I'm just playing semantics.
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    Re: According to Reiss we have an offensive coordinator..coaching changes

    I think as you point out learning about more than one position would seem to make him more the heir apparent D coordinator as I believe Pepper has only worked with the front 7.
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    Re: According to Reiss we have an offensive coordinator..coaching changes

    I was thinking the same thing. Either way if it means the secondary plays better next year than we will be happy. I think there is a lot of talent back there and if they all realize their own potential then this group could be one of the best in the league.
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    Re: According to Reiss we have an offensive coordinator..coaching changes

    I have no problem with O'Brien being given the official title. Apart from the playoff game I thought he did a better job at 1/2 time adjustments, infused new players into the offensive system quickly, had good game plans and got the team to preform at a high-level. Having TB turn in an MVP year can't hurt too.:D

    Patricia seems to be the heir-apparent to the DC job. My assumption is that BB likes him, thinks he does a good job and is asking that he take over a position that might need some fine tuning.

    I don't know much about Graham other than what I have read. Seems like BB thought he did a good job and a positional assignment seems to be a promotion over a defensive assistant role.
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    Re: According to Reiss we have an offensive coordinator..coaching changes

    O'Brien shouldn't be promoted he should be fired.
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    Re: According to Reiss we have an offensive coordinator..coaching changes

    Congratulations to O'Brien on his promotion
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    Re: According to Reiss we have an offensive coordinator..coaching changes

    Uhhh what?
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    Re: According to Reiss we have an offensive coordinator..coaching changes

    Yes congrats to O'Brien and Graham.
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    Re: According to Reiss we have an offensive coordinator..coaching changes

    Anyone who calls for BOB to be fired this soon is a tool. Seriously. Aside from the Jets/Cleveland games (which just as easily could be chalked up to Brady simply not having a good day) and the misuse of Gronk in that he blocks too much, he's done a damn fine job this season. MUCH better than 09 for sure. Give him two more seasons and if he sucks after that, fine.
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    Re: According to Reiss we have an offensive coordinator..coaching changes

    The problem is he seems to "pull a Manning" in the playoffs. But I'm willing to give him a chance since he showed some potential this year in the regular season.
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    Re: According to Reiss we have an offensive coordinator..coaching changes

    It's hard to say he's a "Manning-type" coordinator based on the last two playoff games. Granted, they were both ugly offensive showings, but they can't be pegged all on BOB. In the Ravens game, Welker was out, Light and the Koppen were being abused, Moss was doubled, and the only targets Brady had were Aiken, Stanback, Edelman (who put up a valiant effort I may add, but a rookie nontheless), and butterfingers Benjamin. Then in the Jets game, again, our C and RG were abused, Brady threw a lazy interception, and Pat Chung F'd up a 4th down trick play.

    Bottom line, it's unfair of us to criticize BOB based on those two playoff games alone. Once we improve our interior O-line and find some decent RBs to compliment Lawfirm and Woody, i think we'll be back in the championship games.
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    Re: According to Reiss we have an offensive coordinator..coaching changes

    Given your "if," I think my version's more accurate. :)
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    Re: According to Reiss we have an offensive coordinator..coaching changes

    Really?!? I wasn't a fan of his going into this year, but he totally revamped this offense on the fly after they trade away Moss and made this the most potent offense in the NFL. Why should he be fired? Because of one game where the whole team played like crap?

    There were plenty of big games where both Weis and McDaniels couldn't get the offense to do anything. In fact, in all four Super Bowls, the offense struggled for good stretches.
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    Re: According to Reiss we have an offensive coordinator..coaching changes

    You are giving him far too much credit for the losses. He didn't call the play last year where the Pats defense allowed Ray Rice run through it like butter. He didn't draw up the gameplan that allowed Sanchez to throw for three TDs. Or the Jets' offense to convert 46% of their third downs.

    Why is it that the OC of the moment whether it is Weis, McDaniels, or O'Brien get blamed for every loss.
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    Re-watching the SB vs the Eagles I was amazed to note that with Dillon in his prime and a young Branch, the O went 3 and out several times. Then I remembered that in football that is what happens quite often. We expect too much from our guys at times.

    I thought O'Brien had a great 2010 season.
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    Re: According to Reiss we have an offensive coordinator..coaching changes

    The coaches f'ed up the Jets game-planning and adjustments. Period. It happens. But that doesn't mean BOB didn't have a fine year overall, with a highly successful offense.

    The single player on the team who most needs to be "saved" is indeed Meriweather, who could be a perennial Pro Bowler or could be benched and then gone in a year. Chung also could be anywhere from a star to a liability.
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    According to Ron Jaworski, who is one of the best game film analysts in the media, much of the blame for the Jets loss goes to Brady who numerous times did not see receivers who were open.

    I think BOB did a fantastic job last year and I'm glad he got the OC title.
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    That doesn't exonerate the coaching. Brady sees more receivers than most QBs, but he doesn't see them all. He wasn't properly prepped for the defense he actually saw, and the coaches didn't bail things out in-game.
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    That's too bad. Was hoping for a major upgrade at OC.
    Need somebody with enough cache to get in Brady's face when he needs it ala his uninspired lethargic bizarro effort vs the Jets.
    Also might be nice to have a OC who actually makes in-game adjustments to counteract what the D is doing.
    So much time has been wasted over the past few years dealing with coaches training wheels around here. Really is a shame.
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    Do you remember last year? Everyone wanted him run out on a rail. EVERYONE was saying we need a real OC. This year, in the regular season he did a lot better, but returned to his old self against the Jests in the playoffs. His play calling Stunck. Its as bad as my spelling.
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    And no Bryan Cox? The Patriots really need someone like that....
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    A bit off topic.

    Is there any O coordinators out there that any one thinks would be better then O'Brien?

    The reason I ask is that on the Jet boards there is a lot of talk about getting rid of the Jets O coordinator and I have yet to here of an available replacement (Other then Callahan, and I like him only because he would not need to change verbiage and would give the O some continuity) who would be a definite upgrade.

    TIA
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    Anyones better than the guy you got, its got to be the most thankless job in the NFL, Ive never seen a coaching position take more heat from fans than the OC.
    - Go 14-2, get rid of the guy
    - score the most points in the NFL for the year, get rid of the guy
    - your QB is unanimous MVP, get rid of the guy
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    Re: According to Reiss we have an offensive coordinator..coaching changes

    Patricia needs to coach another position or two to see if he is worthy of being promoted to Defensive Coordinator. Belichick can be acting DC for another year. We are still young enough on defense to need the extra attention.

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    I agree, it occurs to me that this move could be considered a compliment to Patricia.

    Could be that BB recognizes that the safety position is a problem/under achieving and wants his best man to take it over and make it the asset that BB believes it could be.

    Pure conjecture, but what the hey, it's the off season.
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