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    Bill Belichick

    I just came across this and thought it was a pretty good read. If nothing else it's a far cry better than another writer rehashing the already overused 'the Ravens will win because they won in 2009, and the Pats are 0-2 against teams with winning records'. To me it's a pretty good balance - not all sunshine and rainbows, but not all stirring the pot contrarianism either.

    Charles P. Pierce on the New England Patriots and Denver Broncos divisional playoff game - Learning To Love The Antichrist - Grantland

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    Re: Bill Belichick

    "The problem, of course, is that, while Belichick's anarchy is evident on the field, behind the podium, he still behaves as though he should be planted on a hillside on Easter Island"

    Best line in the article. :D
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    Some talking head fool on the radio down here called Belichick an "awful person" in terms of his sports life because of the third down punt. Seriously. I guess only we get to truly enjoy how awesome the Patriots are when it comes to creativity.
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    This:

    I have watched this happen since I began following the Patriots in 1974.

    There was a time when football had actual, simple to understand and grasp rules that were meant to provide a framework for the game, not control it.

    In short, in the old days the rules told you what you COULDN'T do. They now have changed them to tell you what you CAN do.

    It's all rather sad, really.
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    Pierce is a great writer, plus he's totally nuts, which makes for an occasionally outstanding article.
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    Truly lapidary. :cool:
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    Thanks, this is fabulous.
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    Nice, that was a great article!
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    That's good writing - and good thinking.
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    Can you enlighten me on the problem of the 3rd down punt?

    It's not as if Brady was throwing a hail mary in the endzone, or they were going for it on 4th down?

    They....punted. And this is the latest controversy now?

    I suppose since they can't actually continue to play football, and they obviously can no longer punt either, that they should have simply laid down in the middle of the field?

    They punted the football...in a 45-10 game late in the 4th quarter..and somehow there is some kind of 'new' controversy now?

    Was it b/c they "wasted" a play on 3rd down, and that looked arrogant? If so, who cares? The game was over, and there were only a handful of minutes left in a clear blowout. We've seen Roethlisberger punt before, and no one cares...I don't see the whole picture here.
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    I think the feeling is that the punt was an unnecessary cherry on top of the win. People would've rather seen a run up the middle and then a punt.
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    Maybe they were like me and laid a bunch of cash on the Pats -7 in the second half? :confused:

    :D
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    That's ridiculous.

    I suppose I can understand, but really?

    We're going to get crap from other teams and mediots now for a punt late in the 4th quarter of a 45-10 game?

    The reason it was on 3rd down is b/c it wasn't a change of possession down, meaning that it continued to milk the clock down, no?

    If people understood things, they may see it differently, as the genius that it was.
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    Great read Ron, tnx

    lol'd hard at this bit...
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    Re: Bill Belichick

    I never really thought of the average football fan as overly sensitive, but after seeing the reaction to that punt, I may have to change my opinion:eek:
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    The article basically argues that too many fans are caught up in the hype and forget to watch the game.

    We have it good in New England.
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    High school classmate. He was, and evidently still is, a "package." Great writer.
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    Isn't the reason for a third down punt to avoid putting your punter in an obvious block situation against a desperate team and also to avoid the possibility of a run back TD, which extend the game, and inevitably leads to a potential injury producing onside kick scrum. It was a football play not an attempt to disrespect.
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    True. But then if the RB had broken off the run for a first down (or god forbid, a touchdown) then the very same people would be pointing fingers at the Pats for running up the score.

    So perhaps Brady should have taken a knee and then Mesko punted? Or would taking a knee be considered classless and rubbing it in Denver's face too?

    In my opinion there is nothing at all that the Patriots could have done (other than lose) without this segment of chronic complainers whining. Actually, they'd probably complain about that too, saying the Pats were over-hyped by the media.
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    Good, bad, Ugly! It doesn't matter what you call it people are going to hate him because he is good. Just like Brady they will pick apart anything they can to find something they don't like and then feed on it. The man is a MAGICIAN plan an simple. No one knows whats going to happen next nor how he comes up with some of it.
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    Isn't the objective of an offense to disguise your play, whether it's run or pass? Why not disguise a punt? I swear everyone else in the NFL is just jealous that they didn't think of it first.
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    They thought it was rubbing it in. And they were also furious that Brady was still in to do it.

    I would call and say something but there is literally no point.
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    Anyone that b!tches about that 3rd down punt needs to toughen up. This is football for cripes sake!

    Go become a curling fan or something. Seriously.
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    I remember him from way back (haven't lived in the area for twenty years) and remember thinking he could be huge if he'd eases up on the politics a bit. I tilt slightly left, but he managed to seem radical despite working for the alternative paper in the most liberal area in the US.

    Nothing wrong with that, just thought it limited him in the political writing sphere.
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    It's better to be right than popular.
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    When the punt took place I thought BB did it because he's anal when it comes to preparing his players for every and all future situations and this was the perfect time to practice the play ..... in a real game atmosphere, with nary a worry that if the play backfired, then the consequence of doing so wouldn't be much of an issue.
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    Another example of situational football, and something for future opponents to have to plan for/thnk about.
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    Great article on ESPN by Charles Pierce! One of the best I've ever read on our beloved BB.

    Learning to Love the Antichrist

    "This is what you get — incredibly disciplined players, talking like automatons, but playing in a system in which almost anything is likely to happen on the field, as well as in a system that will gleefully exploit every misplaced comma in the NFL rulebook, which the NFL richly deserves to have happen to it."

    Charles P. Pierce on the New England Patriots and Denver Broncos divisional playoff game - Grantland

    I especially loved the quote in bold!

    P.S. I looked for a thread on this and didn't see one....guess I didn't look hard enough! ;)
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    Kept the new thread title, good merger;)
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    Grantland copy editor/headline writer doesn't know the difference between "Antichrist" and "anarchist". Pierce used the latter throughout the piece. Nowhere in there does he say "Antichrist".

    Must get their editing chops from the guy on the masthead.
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