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  1. PATRIOTSFANINPA

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    Vince and his fundraising campaign that he does annually for his foundation is once again asking Patriots fans and anyone who is able to give to this dreaded disease just to donate anything they can,even if its just a buck or two.

    Vince will match up to $50,000 of all monies collected,so if you can give anything to try and help fight against this destructive disease that all people either have or know someone who does (my wife has it), I am sure he would appreciate this.

    If this can be stickied as well until the fundraising is over this year,it would be cool

    Check it out for more information.....

    The Vince Wilfork Foundation
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    no offense to diabetics.... but there are far more diseases that need funding more than "Diabeetus" (Wilford B. quote)

    Why not Cancer, auto-immune diseases like MS, Huntington's etc.... they are far more destructive than having to administer shots to regulate insulin levels.:rolleyes:



    Good for Vince and his foundation, but there are far worse diseases than Diabetes that need funding.



    Do I need to bring race in to this rant????

    I will.




    Black's are diagnosed at a much higher rate w/ diabetes than whites.


    Imagine that.... I do see the picture and it has more black contrast than white.
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    Far worse diseases? Your comments border on offensive and while Diabetes may not be a "quick killer" it affects more people than you can imagine. Here are actual FACTs (diabetes.org)

    Total: 23.6 million children and adults in the United States—7.8% of the population—have diabetes.
    Diagnosed: 17.9 million people
    Undiagnosed: 5.7 million people
    Pre-diabetes: 57 million people

    So quick math is 23.6 million in 2007 with Diabetes in the US. Add to that 57 million people with Pre-Diabetes (have elevated blood sugar levels and on the verge of full blown Diabetes unless they make BIG changes) and you end up with 80+ Million people affected by this disease in the US alone! That more than a quarter of the population.

    1 out of every 4 people!!!!!!!!

    Over time this disease causes retinopathy, is a leading cause of non-traumatic amputations and is a leading cause in stroke and heart attack. People are only starting to realize just how horrible this disease is.

    As far as race is involved, here are the statistics:

    6.6% of non-Hispanic whites
    7.5% of Asian Americans
    11.8% of non-Hispanic blacks
    10.4% of Hispanics

    There are approximately 230 Million "white" americans, so while the percentage of diabetics is lower, non-hispanic whites still make up the largest population. But why bother going there? Is it less important to find a cure for a disease because it affects one race more than another? Hell NO! In fact, I'm pretty sure only you, archie bunker and a few white guys with pointy white hats feel that way. Disgusting!

    Am I passionate about this? YES! I have a sister who was diagnosed at age 9 and I have worked in the industry for the last 5 years. I've seen her blood sugar level fall so low she went into a Diabetic coma.

    When you have diabetes there are no days off! You're have to consider what you're eating, how active you are or aren't, medications and normal life occurrences that can affect your blood sugar, like stress, illness etc. It is a HORRIBLE thing to live with and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

    So, while it may not seem like a worthy cause in your mind, you're wrong and full of ****. I'm done with this thread as it doesn't make sense to let someone ignorant on a subject to get you fired up as much I'm fired up now. I'll pray that you never have to find out personally just how horrible this disease is.

    Now .. I'm off to figure out how to add someone to the ignore list.
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    VInce lost both his parents to Diabetes, which is why he started this foundation. WOW if you get mad and go into a rant because a guy wants to raise money to help the suffering of those that are afflicted with the same diease that killed his parents! You might need to check your insulin levels......Just for that rant, I'm going to give Vince some $$$$

    Good for you Vince, he also holds a draft party each year to raise money for his foundation too. I hear that it is a great time!
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    Your user name is FANTASTIC!
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    Good for you vince keep up the good work! There might be worse diseases like "Cancer, auto-immune diseases like MS, Huntington's" but i have witnessed the pain and suffering one person can take from this disease. I watched my mother day in and day out struggle as a diabetic and not to long ago she passed away. So i know when i donate im putting my money to good use and maybe one day that little bit might make a difference and someone like me wont have to go through the things i had to.
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    Just a terrible post...
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    Good for Vince is right.


    Totally understandable.... it effected him b/c of his Parents. Nothing was directed against Vince... just why Diabetes.... I wondered.



    and to the guy with the stat's on Diabetes.....

    Take a look at something like MS (Multiple Sclerosis).....

    I feel for them a hell of al ot more than Diabetes.

    MS is a power slugger while diabetes is Tee Ball.
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    I think it is a great that any athlete get's involved with charities or community work regardless of the cause. What's worse is when they don't get involved in any foundation when they absolutley have the power to make positive impacts for people who are in need.

    That post was unreal.
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    What an assinine, ill-informed post. Would you like to visit the 42-year of patient whom I met last week and tell him this? He has had diabetes since the age of 12 and, despite the "very simple" administration of insulin under the care of the experts at the Joslin Diabetes Clinic, has been on dialysis for the past 15 years. Did I mention that both of his legs have been amputated below the knee due to peripheral vascular disease and that he vomits after almost every meal due to gastroparesis? I won't tell you whether he is white, black, hispanic or asian, because it really shouldn't matter.

    While I support funding for whatever disease one feels is a worthy cause (my father has Parkinson's disease and I'd love it if there was more money available for Parkinson's research), the reality is that childhood and adult onset diabetes are far more destructive diseases than MS or Huntington's. The costs of caring for the diabetic population in the United States are huge - chronic kidney disease, heart disease, neuropathy, etc. As mentioned by another poster, it is even more dangerous b/c it can be a "silent killer" for many years. Vince should be applauded for attempting to make the public aware of the dangers of the disease. If you'd rather give to another cause, perhaps one that more frequently affects the white population, simply do so....and then STFU.
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    SO sorry to hear about your mom Chubbz!
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    I apologize if I offended.....



    I am 23.... dxed w/ MS at age 10.....



    I am doing very well w/ my MS.... 5 yr's w/o attack's


    I damn diabetes b/c everything I or anybody else w/ MS has to go through is much more BS.


    1. inability to walk. Loss of Vision. Muscle Weakness, uncoordinated, numbness, fatigue, spasticity....

    those are just a couple of the symptoms.... I can go on.

    Pick your poison ppl. Diabetes is nothing after dealing w/ a struggle like MS.

    Are you serious? Don't insult me w/ your lack of awareness of how diabetes is less controllable and livable than MS. Get with it.... know your facts.
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    I am well aware that MS is a terrible disease. I see patients for complications of MS and I know what some go through on a daily basis. I'm sorry that these are issues that you do and will continue to have to struggle with.

    While I'm sure that you are well-informed about MS, you are clearly ill-informed about diabetes. It is not very livable or controllable for some people. It is not "nothing" for many people, particularly those with juvenile onset disease.

    Comparing one disease to another is never a productive exercise. Next time you should simply post a link about MS so that members of the site can become more educated about your disease. Don't belittle the plight of diabetics and definitely don't make it a racial issue.
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    What some don't realize is that not only is Diabetes a deadly disease if not treated right but it also can result in lost limbs,especially the feet and severe disabilities which include damaging of heart and brain tissue.

    I can almost guarantee that there are at least 25% people in this very forum who have the disease and don't yet know it if they have not been tested in the past year or two - There are few signs if at all and diabetes is becoming out of control and developing in an alarming amount of new victims added everyday.

    My wife first discovered her affiliation with the disease by just getting a reading from her neighbor who has it,My wife had a reading of 425 and never realized the danger she was in,since that high reading she is trying to combat the disease by excersizing and losing weight but that can only delay high blood glucose numbers,it cannot control it,she remains with numbers in the 130-170 range on an average day.

    Please understand why Vince is doing this and know it is a very worthy cause,Vince is not just all about big money and contracts - this man has a heart as big as his body.
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    Nice posts, great cause. Nice to see the wealthier people sharing their time and money.

    My GF actually received a direct tweet from Wilfork yesterday, he was talking about how everyone should contribute 2.00 each, and that if all his twitter followers did that it would total like 17,000. He then said he'd match it, etc.

    My GF replied that she'd send a little more than that, etc--and he responded to her, thanked her personally, or as personal as you can get via twitter. At any rate, she was excited that he took the time to respond etc.
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    On another note, sorry to hear about the afflictions that HarkDawg is going through, I have seen 1st hand the perils of MS, and diabetes. Good wishes to you, and chubbz, also.
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    If it's not bad enough looking at your stupid sig everyday
    ... now we have to read this crap. Then you play the race card ... what a dolt.
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    I personally don't think it's wise to bash on one Disease because it may not be as debilitating as another, it actually pushes people away from the message you are trying to deliver.
    People that have diseases that require funding should be Thankful that folks are setting up Foundations, and praising them for it instead of saying "Where's mine, my disease is worse".

    Is Diabetes the "worst" Disease ever? Not IMO
    Does it deserve funding to try and find a cure? Of course it does, it affects MILLIONS of people, and as stated there are MILLIONS of people that don't even know that they have it yet, they won't know until there is an "unrelated" problem that sends them to the hospital, it is there that they will find out that they have Diabetes.

    All Diseases deserve funding, noone I know of has ever asked to be afflicted with a Disease.
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    yeah

    i can tell it hasn't made you bitter and angry at all

    seriously though, what kind of loser would troll a diabetes thread

    no seriously im wondering

    are you really that kind of loser? :rofl:
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    I have Diabetes, Type II. I control it through diet, exercise and medicine, but it's still pita. I'd very much like to find a cure. I wish there was one, because I'd love to just once be able to go out to eat and order whatever I wanted. I'd love to not have to check my Blood Glucose levels 4 times a day. I'd love to not have to take the medicine. Mostly, I'd love to not have to shell out so much money for meds and testing supplies.

    But you do what you have to do. Like Coach says: "It is what it is."

    Good on Vince for doing this!
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    Wow, I'm embarrassed to post on the same forum as you.

    How about this, let's shut down any foundation that is promoting anything that ISN'T MS or "worse"? Would that make you feel better?
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    I'm sorry you have MS but I'm not sure that gives you license to be an *******.

    I'm diabetic and it's not a cakewalk either. It's a constant freaking battle and the possibility of loss of limb isn't particularly comforting either. I wouldn't trade it for MS currently, but that shouldn't be the measuring stick for funding.

    If you go down your logical path, then everyone should give up their funding for cancer research and call it a day, while the people that are left die from Crohn's, Diabetes, and other diseases.

    I hope, just for irony's sake, that someone finds a cure for MS tomorrow-- and that person is diabetic. Then you'll owe your freedom from illness to someone who was helped by big Vince. Maybe that bigger picture would give you some additional perspective which will hopefully help you live a happier life regardless of your situation.

    -Rob-
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    I mean no offense, at all, to those who have their own issues and struggles to deal with--you have my respect for taking care of your troubles and turning obstacles into opportunities.

    That said, my dad has struggled with diabetes since his late teens. He manages it as well as he can, but it worries me deeply. I can't tell you how many times my mother has woken me up and asked me to help her with my father. Sometimes he goes so low in the middle of the night that he's no longer aware of who he is or what's going on, and he resists eating anything to stabilize his blood sugar levels or letting us use the glucagon shot. I've had to physically restrain him--my own father! In the morning he has absolutely no memory of what's happened, and is incredibly embarrassed when we tell him what went on. He's one of the sweetest, gentlest men I've ever known in my life, but when he goes low he no longer has any control.

    In addition, his thyroid is falling apart. He's been on medicine for a couple years, but it's starting to cause major health issues in other areas. His immune system is so weak that if any of us gets a minor cold, he often misses a week of work. And it's getting progressively worse, despite the diet and exercise, the pump and sensor, the regular doctor visits . . . you get the idea. I worry I may lose my dad early, and it's on my mind a lot lately. :( Oh, and for the record, I'm white; race doesn't have anything to do with it.

    I applaud Vince, and hope that the money he raises goes a long way to helping alleviate the suffering of millions.
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    It has been awhile since I have seen such ignorance posted here, not to mention the obvious bigotry.

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    That was really classic.

    Buddy, you should leave this forum. This post is a disgrace not only to Pats fans everywhere, not only to anyone who has ever suffered from diabetes or any other disease, but to the internet in general. That's right, you have shamed the internet. I don't think you're evil, but clearly you are lacking something if you think this is remotely OK to post. If I was mean I would write that you are an effing idiot, but that wouldn't be nice so I won't. Just go, for all our sakes.
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    Wow. I knew you were 'off', hark, but... wow. You're really setting the bar now.

    BTW, having MS doesn't make it at all okay. A lot of people deal with pretty significant stuff, it doesn't make you unique. That includes me, though I'm not going to discuss my own health because that's not why I post here. Bottom line: part of becoming a functioning adult is getting the hell over it and realizing that none of that justifies being a giant douche. Vince is trying to help people, and he should be commended for using his status for something worthwhile. How you feel about the condition is irrelevant.
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    I'm sorry for your trouble. My sister has diabetes and it really shortened my grandmother's life. But what your father is going through sounds so much tougher. Good luck with it.
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    Have we gotten so competitive as a species that we have to try to "win" the worst terrible affliction contest?

    If you want to argue that MS research is underfunded, I have no feud with that, I agree 100%. But the solution is NOT to divert funds away from other disease research because it's "not as bad".
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    You must read the entire thread.....



    That 1st remark was bad of me.... I apologized. I was having a bad day.



    I am not a bad guy...... MS screwed my likely D1 potential. I don't even play a NCAA sport b/c of it.

    Having a father Great at FB, Hockey, Track and fast / quick 4.43 40 back in the 70's
    I just get pissed at the what ifs.

    Drafted by an NFL team..... NHL could have played pro.

    but it is not about that or my father..... just read all the posts.
    I have been relapse free for 5 plus years.
    I am doing so well..... no one knows I have it. When i do say I have MS... they can't believe it.
    It is a prick of a disease....

    once again I apologize. My misconception was diabetes is controllable through diet.... but it seems diet alone is not enough.
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    that is one hell of an apology :rofl:
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    I did read the entire thread. I stand by my statements.

    But my sympathies to you and your family for your struggles. Glad you were able to recover at least partially.
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