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Biden Gearing up for 2016 - Goes Jim Crow

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    #24 Jersey

    If nothing else Democrats are consistent ...... race baiting = votes.
    Do democrats think black people are dumb ... that they can't vote on all the issues - only race issues?
    Preying upon emotion ... sort of condescending IMO.

    http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/joe-biden-makes-his-pitch-black-voters

     
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    Blacks aren't stupid. They know the history of Jim Crow and how easily voting rights were taken away. They're aware that the Republicans are systematically trying to make it more difficult for blacks to vote through Voter ID laws, reduced voting hours, gerrymandering, and other methods. In fact, black voters are actually very sophisticated because their own families often have stories of being deprived of voting rights. Blacks live and experience discrimination. I'm wondering if you think discrimination is mostly a fiction created by lazy blacks who want handouts? It's only a coincidence that voter ID laws, reduced voting hours, long lines, and gerrymandering along racial lines, right?
     
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    It's not a coincidence, it's a lie. It's sure as hell isn't a coincidence that the democrats keep trying to rewrite history about who was behind Jim Crow laws. And it isn't a coincidence that even today democrats feel that African Americans are uniquely stupid and incapable of obtaining an identification already held by the majority of Americans.

    Perhaps you can explain how having someone show up to vote with more proof than their word is more difficult for African Americans than whites, or Asians, or anybody else. Then explain why if this minimal check of citizenship required by the constitution is so damn difficult, why you don't find a law requiring everyone to sign up for health insurance through a poorly constructed website, and identify themselves is not more difficult. Then explain why financially penalizing them if they fail that task is not a significantly greater hardship than obtaining a free ID.
     
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    #24 Jersey

    Well then why aren't they addressed the same as any other crowd would be ...

    If they know or felt these issues valid they should be able to factor them on their own ...

    Right?

    Biden already got in trouble for a similar speech in 2012.

    Same old tune if you ask me he treats blacks as if they are dumb and need emotion to vote properly.

    Obama uses the southern accent when speaking to blacks ... it really is shameful.

    democrats speak down to blacks ... blacks should speak out and demand equal speech treatments.
     
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    This is the guy many want to run this country after they "impeach" Obama...

    Slow day in the news first dwelling on the words of Elijah Cummings and now picking apart comments from Biden... do not worry Michelle Bachman is talking about running for Prez again, the azzclown parade just got bigger.
     
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    #18 Jersey

    Didn't you get the memo that caucasian Americans should have an inate sympathy for those of us born with a dark complexion?

    What a foolish thought....and speaking of foolish...Biden?
     
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    Democrats aren't rewriting history. They made it in 1964 when they were courageous enough to turn their backs on the Dixiecrats to pass Civil Rights. This was the same sort of principled courage as when Dems. turned their backs on LBJ because of his pro Vietnam War policies. Can you think of examples like that in the Republican Party? Blacks know the history of Jim Crow, saw Democrats lead on the issue of Civil Rights, and came to realize that the Democratic Party was willing to take risks to create a more equal nation. I think what you're providing is an example of Republican bigotry by implying that minorities are being manipulated to support Democrats, but whites are not being manipulated to support Republicans, or that blacks don't know the histories of both parties. It's people like you who don't know that history,

    You're only focusing on one point -- not gerrymandering by race, not closing voting places to create long lines, not reducing voting hours to make it more difficult for people to vote. First, research shows that Voter ID laws are more likely to affect blacks, women, and Democrats. The Republicans know that. Second, the incidence of voter fraud is negligible, since most people don't vote anyway and most people are not so motivated to vote that they'll risk a felony. Third, most people find going to offices and getting even a renewed drivers license inconvenient, so this is putting on burden on those who don't drive, can't drive, aren't near a state office, and don't have handy the papers needed to get an ID. Fourth, getting an ID costs money -- to get a copy of a birth certificate, to take the bus to the voter ID office, etc. These are small costs for middle class people, but not for poor people. The voter ID initiatives is dominated by white men of the Republican Party in swing states and conservative states. It's a manufactured issue designed to disenfranchise.

    Healthcare is a different matter. It's a law that doesn't seem to treat one race worse than the other. It is a that in the vast majority of cases doesn't harm the people who oppose it and helps the people who want it. Health for most people is higher priority than voting. If you're poor, health insurance is free (or at least very inexpensive) and there are social services to assist you in applying.
     
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    #24 Jersey

    It did when you posted that's for sure.
     
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    Well these polling places that are suffering from long lines, without documentation I would think of recent problems in Fl and St Louis, problem is that the polling locations and facilities are controlled by dems in these (and all other) major US urban locations.


    As to this research showing that black people are too dumb to get ID's, please link so we can examine the source.

    Why would legal voters risk a felony for voting btw?


    BTW as the earlier poster commented how is it that these poor people can register for Obamacare through the web and get other gov benefits or is the gov discriminating against the poor getting benefits also?
     
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    the liberal racism is hilarious......pandering to poor minorities with programs that string them along in order to buy their vote

    can't let them become successful......might lose their vote
     
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    Amazing amount of BS in this post. Just saying...
     
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    impressive amount of garbled nonsense
     
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    Yeah, right, just ask any sheltered suburban, white Republican about the black experience and you get your answers. Gee, Charlotte, don't you wish black people were as smart as you?
     
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    I know I keep harping on this same subject but I find it "Unbelievable" here we go "CHICAGO" why are all of America's Wonderful Saviors Of The Black People, The Democrats, just ignoring the "Blacks Killing Blacks" just yesterday another child an 11 year old was killed by a Savages stray shot, why doesn't this Windbag Grinning Bumbling Idiot Biden try to actually save some Black Children's LIves instead of preaching his same old tired Racist Race Baiting Crap, young Black People are being murdered daily right on the streets of America and all the Phony Democrats can find to complain about is some stupid friggin football player insulting homosexuals. HOW MANY BLACKS WERE MURDERED BY OTHER BLACKS ON THE SAME NIGHT THE HISPANIC KILLED TRAYVON MARTIN, YOU WON'T HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT THAT, IT STILL GOES ON DAILY AND THE DEMOCRATS JUST IGNORE IT, MAYBE THEY HAVEN'T REALIZED YET THAT THEY ARE LOSING VOTES.

    BIDEN WOULD BE AN AMERICAN HERO IF HE COULD STOP THE CHICAGO WAR
    HE'D BE RIGHT UP THERE WITH RONALD REAGAN
     
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    #18 Jersey

    The irony is that they ARE as smart as anyone else and don't need whitey watching out for their best interests Patters. Whatever applies to one, should apply to all and the time for voter ID's has arrived.

    Unless you think we should start a program that provides gov't subsidized cars for po folk.....
     
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    Nah you're just hoping the're as dumb as you. Hey Patters wanna bet I live around and interact with more Black People than you do?
     
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    #24 Jersey

    In my many years in business I have seen the Dominicans come...the Mexicans ... Salvadoreans .... Guatemalans ... Hondurians. Conduct business with all those groups and totally accepted by all of them by speaking to them and with them and not down to them.

    They share the same dreams as my grand parents and it is exciting to experience and be a part of. All hard working proud people that politicians do not speak down to ...just saying ... independent people find their way when so inclined. I do not see this in the African American community ... and they have been here longer...much longer ... politicians use them for their own power.....pathetic.
     
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    #32 Jersey

    Heres what gets me.

    This country sheds American blood and spends billions if not trillions spreading Democracy over the world so other nations might have legit elections where voting day isn't a sham when our own elections are just that.
     

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