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it is no surprise that he finds me "offensive" for posting positive things about Jesus and you are "on the right track". Just leave out the swearing and you're a genius!!
But i do agree on one thing, this "exchange" is actually very pleasing to me because folks are talking about the Bible and they are talking about Jesus, hopefully even READING the Bible for themselves, instead of watching the nightly news and deciding that Christianity = White, Rich Republicans.
please do check out the Bible, especially the Gospels of Matthew and John
http://bibledev.azaz.com/bibleresources/bible_kjv.php
grogan2767 said:First of all if you do read the Bible, start at the beginning, Genesis and read the whole thing through.
3 to 4 does NOT want you to do this. That is why he directs you to the Gospels that will make you think about Jesus. He is doing EXACTLY what I have said.
By the way 3 to 4, I am not afraid of people reading AND studying the Bible. The Bible is the CURE for Christianity.
I would respectfully ask that you no longer acuse me of being someone else. I have not lied once on this board. This is the only username I have ever had. I am a 40 year old grown man with a Fundy wife and fundy little children.
I love them very much and I am a good person. It was VERY painful for me to admit this religion is false. However, false it is. Because it is false, it hurts people very much. You teach people to fear invisible things that don't exist (SATAN?) You, 3 to 4, though it is not your fault, have the potential to HURT PEOPLE, some of them quite badly. There are MANY, MANY former Born Again Christians. (Just as much as a CHirstian as you think you are. It is vapor)
Again, I am trying to help you. Come on out of the Matrix.
http://www.ex-christian.net/
3 to be 4 said:by all means, read Genesis, read the WHOLE thing, so you get the whole story, not an uncomfortable verses that doesnt suit your stomach. I love the Old Testament, try reading Psalms and Proverbs. its ironic, the "mean" chapters you are cherry picking verses from are mostly from the part of the Bible that make up the Torah. So I guess you wont be going to Temple anytime soon either.
Have a great day
grogan2767 said:Wrong again dude.
1SA 15:3, 7-8 "This is what the Lord says: Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have; do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and donkey ....' And Saul ... utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword."
I Samuel is not is the Torah.
I have a challenge for you dude? You say you are such a CHristian. Why don't you actually address any of this stuff?
WHY is OK for God to have the Israelites kill babies with the sword? I could live with "He is God, He can do whatever He wants, ONLY if you don't claim omnibenevolence as well. He can't be omnibenevolent AND give the Isrealites laws that included burning a person alive to death (Leviticus 20) Do you have any idea how horrible a thing it is to burn someone alive? We would not have done that to Hitler! Yet he orders them to do it to certain people guilty of certain sexual sins. They didn't murder or even hurt anyone, etc.
Again. TRY to defend your God! I guarantee you can't, and that is why you are not trying!
3 to be 4 said:Hey, Grogan, this is us
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8lr1trSxgg
lets try to lighten it up. have a great Saturday
grogan2767 said:I can be light if you want to. You started all the religious stuff. Just so you know preaching the Gospel on a sports site is NOT light.
And, you called me a Jew Hater, which I am not, and I NEVER said that once on this site anywhere. You don't have my trust. You can disagree with someone and still trust them. You lied about me. Even that Jewish person from VA defended me against your anti-semetic claims. All I did was post scriptures right out of the Bible, and THEY offended you!
Go Pats!