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  1. pats1

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    Here's what he told Shalise Manza Young of the Projo:

    http://www.beloblog.com/ProJo_Blogs/PatsBlog/archives/2007/07/samuels_agents.html

    But here's what he saying to Breer:

    http://news.bostonherald.com/blogs/patriots/

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    http://patriots.bostonherald.com/patriots/view.bg?articleid=1013603
    In other words, no change.
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    The Bears got Briggs in by promising not to franchise him again next year. The chance of that happenning here are next to zero. Why would the Patriots give up that option? Foolish...
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    Were I a twit like Asante, I'd be in no rush to get to training camp early. Forfeiting nearly $500K per regular season game is another matter entirely.
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    Well I don't think anyone expected him tomorrow. But the fact that they are communicating and still have what sounds like amicable relations is a good sign. It may just be more optimistic agentspeak though, who knows?
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    I'm not sure I'd call those differing positions. It was the same position with different follow up questions by the reporters. He essentially told both reporters the same thing to start and then it went differently from there.
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    Does anyone else get the feeling that the agents for Samuel just seem to be spewing out stuff to the media just for the sake of making a headline? I mean, I really feel like the whole time that negotations on a longterm extension were ongoing, as Samuel's agents liked to put it, the Pats just sat there with the same exact offer that they gave to him right after the season and said "take it or leave it" so when they left it, they said okay, now see you in camp when you sign the franchise deal. I really have my doubts about the Pats even talking with Samuel at this point, I mean, what is there to talk about on the Pats end? No they aren't going to put in writing that they won't franchise you next year, so don't ask.
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    I don't see where anything they have said has really made headlines. Deion Branch's agents talked for the sake of making headlines. Samuels agents have said little. The only one who made headlines was that PR guy who works so closely with Asante he can't spell his name.
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    They may sound like they are spewing things out, but remember that they are being called incessantly for comments on the situation.

    I still feel better by the reports. The first time there was a sign of optimism for a long term deal, the person to comment wasn't exactly his agent; it was someone else like his publicist or something. This time the agents are the ones speaking with some semblance of optimism.
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    Maybe he's in no rush to get to camp, but he has a LOT to lose this year...he sort of goes into it just to collect his money and he'll not get that big contract...THAT is why he needs to be in camp..I would say after the public part of TC closes...after 3nd game..but maybe just 2 weeks. Players who sit out invariably end up nehind an drushing to catch up and get hurt a LOT easier. THAT is one reason I think he needs to be in camp sooner rather than later. being PART OF teh program is important. It's not baseball folks, there is a chemsitry that develops with players ON the field. Can't do that from Florida.
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    No, not to me anyway. As dhamz noted, the story is based on the writer's questions and the only "spin" from the agents is the ongoing negotiations. Asante may wind up signing in mid-to-late August as most of the PFW guys forecast, but Meion's trade and the prospect of Training Camp injuries setting some teams back at CB are incentives to hold out as long as possible.
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    The twit wishes to get paid..he needs a strong year to get big bucks being in camp helps that happen..the twit's in early the twit gets his pot of gold with another really solid year..
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    I think he is loving the national attention he is now getting.

    Asante is the last of the 2007 franchise slapped players!

    No reason for him to report until about 3 weeks to go, he will gladly skip all of the two a days and leave enough time to get into tip top playing shape.
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    All of this is agent horse crap if he shows thats great if he doesn't we move on, end of story, I ain't worrying about this and I doubt the Patriots players or Belicheck is, he coaches the players there, everyone should chill until he reports and if he doesn't chill, and we all move on.
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    Me neither.

    The first report said, “We’re trying to come up with something that is beneficial to everyone and get him in there as early as possible,” Bianco said yesterday. “We all feel it’s in the team’s interest and (Samuel’s) best interest to get him in there as close to on time as possible. The lines of communication are open.”

    And the second report said, Agent Jay Bianco, an associate of Alonzo Shavers at Infinite Sports Concepts, said it has now become “highly unlikely” that Samuel will report to camp on time. Samuel is still at his home in South Florida, while the “lines of communication remain open”, according to Bianco.

    Okay, they are trying to get him there as soon as possible, but it probably won't be the first day of camp. These aren't conflicting statements at all.
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    One is clearly pessimistic while the other is much more optimistic.
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    Nice juxtaposition of quotes, P1 !

    But for Bianco and Shavers, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, ... "

    I do not know the truth. But as far as i am concerned, I do know that whatever an agent is saying is not the truth.
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    Didn't the article that said he might sign a longterm deal cite someone who wasn't even his agent. That was Glenn Toby. While Toby said that to the Patriot-Ledger, one of his real agents told the Boston Herald at that time that they hadn't made much progress.

    The two conflicting articles.
    http://ledger.southofboston.com/articles/2007/07/14/sports/sports01.txt
    http://patriots.bostonherald.com/patriots/view.bg?articleid=1011515&srvc=sports

    The point is that this time it was one of his real agents that was quoted. not that I'd get optimistic
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    Toby is "only" the co-founder and executive vice-president of
    the firm that Shavers and Bianco work for.
    That is ... their boss.

    So what if it is tag team?
    They intend to mislead the public.
    Caveat lector!
    Not a crime ... but sufficient reason for me to withhold belief.
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    He isn't an agent. He isn't certified to advise players, nor is the team allowed to speak with him on behalf of Asante's contract. The NFLPA doesn't recognize him.

    But I agree with withholding belief. I'm all with you there
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