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    Last night's game got me thinking how quickly it all turned around for the Packers. Hard to believe a team could look so bad in week one and so dominant in week 2. The same in reverse for the Bears. That didn't look like the same team that dominated in game one and was the medias binky to upset the Pack in their division. How quickly everything changed.

    It was a great lesson for those who think that the Jets are suddenly world beaters, and the Bills are going to suck all season. A great less for those who after one game have written off good teams like the Giants, KC, Saints, and Steelers.

    We all know that how you start has little correlation with how you finish. The 2001 Pats were 5-5 and never lost again. On the other hand the 2011 Giants were a horrible 4-6 over their last 10 games and won a superbowl

    I'm just constantly amazed at how many meaningless "summary judgments" are constantly being made so early in the season, when history has constantly told us (especially lately) that once you make it to the playoffs, anything can happen
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    IDK, I wasn't that impressed with the Packers last night. I felt the Bears' o-line sucks and Cutler is easily rattled. And the Packers' offense has been way too inconsistent this year.

    As for the Jets, Albert Breer said this morning that talking to people around the league that he is hearing the Jets' offense is a mirage and they blame Dave Wannsteadt for a very predictable, vanilla, and outdated defense for not applying the pressure and giving receivers way too big of a cushion. So I think Jets fans are in for a rude awakening about this offense this weekend even if Harrison and Polumalu are out.
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    That is because you have 100 times more 'analysts' on TV than you used to and they all need something to say. "What have you done for me lately" causes them all to gravitate in one direction (or most) and then there is overreaction and hysteria.
    It is getting worse every week, month and season.
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    I'd blame it more on a bad defense that people thought adding one good player and a starting a situational pass rusher would make good despite and awful, awful secondary.
    Shouldn't everyone have realized back then that adding Mario Williams and a liability on 2/3 of the downs wouldn't turn a team that lost 8 of ther last 9 into a dominant defense back then instead of pretending until the bullets started to fly?
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    Still not impressed with GB. If the bears had a Oline and a good QB..it would have been much different
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    I guess thats exactly the point. Dont have to be or look impressive now if you play better later in the season ..
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    The Bills added more than just Williams especially if you include players who went down early in the season last year. But that said, they have a coaching staff that are living in the past, a QB who has been awful other than a 6-8 stretch last year, and an overrated defense especially their front line. Their back seven are awful.
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    I'm really looking forward to the Jets game. It's a win-win as a Patriots fan
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    You nailed it!. Its ridiculous and there is no analysis, research or depth to the so called "experts". The former players that EPSN lines up daily on TV or radio say either the same thing or something I can't even recall because it's just so surface level.
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    Ken, I wish you would post something daily. Although I haven't been active on this site with my replies, I have been reading it for several years and I find myself looking for patfanken posts before any media articles (that may not be saying much mind you).
    It's not just your knowledge but how you deliver it. Too often I sense a smug arrgoance with unqualified media and it really rubs me the wrong way.
    With you, its knowledge with opinion but in a dignified manner.
    Cheers.
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    The Pack D did indeed dominate, aided by a dysfunctional Bears O, which made the green and gold look almost transcendent. But the Pack O did not dominate as they should have done with the field position they were given. Instead they stuttered to points, relying on a fake field goal and an interception that gifted them a shot at goal at the Bears 26 line.

    However I do agree with you that anything can happen to a team once it reaches the playoffs. I just didn't see anything last night that would support either team making it that far. Many games to go, and either team might progress or regress, but last night's game was a clunker (unless you like watching Scuttler throwing passes to the Packer secondary).
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    I wish people would stop bringing up the 2011 Giants 4-6 record. It gets me upset knowing the Pats were a stupid Sergio Brown pass interference away from giving that team a death sentence. HAVE MERCY. THE GAME OF INCHES THE LAST 3 TIMES WE HAVE PLAYED THEM HAS BEEN TORTURE. Minus preseason.
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    The Packers didn't look dominant to me. The Bears just looked like garbage. 4 interceptions and only one offensive TD. Both defenses played really well but the Bears Offense was bad while the Packers was mediocre.
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    Buffalo's Fitzpicksix started the 2012-13 NFL season as he ended the second half of the 2011-12 NFL season. In addition, Buffalo lost their number two wide receiver for the year and number one running back for two to four weeks with an injury.

    The Giants played the Cowboys, the Chiefs played the Falcons, the Steelers played the Broncos with Peyton Manning not Tim Tebow. The Cowboys, Falcons, Broncos are far better quality opponents than the Dolphins and Bills.
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    Packers didn't impress me or unimpress me. We're talking about expectations of being the best team in the NFL. Secondary- I don't know what to make of it- every down the Bears used a slow developing seven-step dropback and had all of their receivers running 15 yards downfield directly into coverage. I was shocked. Packers pass rush did look good, but the Bears never mixed it up to make them wary of quick passes and screens.

    On offense, the Packers looked okay considering they didn't have Jennings, but I've concluded that Finley will never be the star tight end the pundits so badly want him to be (since they've been hyping him up for years.) I think Finley is Aaron Hernandez with worse hands, route running, and versatility, but with a little more speed. I'd take Hernandez in a heartbeat. Packers offensive line is below average, and I sense that teams are starting to figure out how to slow a team with a very weak running game that is very dependent on Aaron Rodgers' pinpoint accuracy. Make no mistake about it, had the Packers played a team that didn't make so many self-inflicted mistakes, they could be staring at 0-2.

    That said, there is lots of time for improvement, and I think the Packers are probably still one of the top teams in the league overall.
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    Hell look at the giants..they could start 0-3 and still make a deep run into the playoffs. It seems like they do this every year
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    They added Williams and paid a 3rd down pass rusher big money to be a full time player.
    Who else do you think they added?
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    I think KC beats the bills this week in buffalo. Bills have a QB who is average at best
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    Last night's game can basically be summed up as "Chicago's left tackle is pretty bad, Cutler still panics and makes ill-advised under pressure, and they only have one real threat in the passing game". Did anyone think that any of these things wasn't the case after week 1?
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