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What teams hate each other more?

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  1. Pats/Jets

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  2. Steelers/Ravens

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  1. furley

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    Brady hates the Jets, Roethlisberger hates playing Baltimore

    In your opinion, as a fan, do you prefer to see opposing players on teams that are rivals dislike one another. Or, do you like to hear them say that they've respect for each other and play as competitors, not enemies.

    I believe rivalries in professional sports are necessary. They can evoke excitement, anticipation or debate. However, I prefer for these NFL players to act as professionals. That is, if you must trash talk, keep it relevant to the game. Conversely, I dislike when it becomes personal for some of these players.

    They ran up the score.
    They were yapping during and/or after the game.
    He whines...
    The better team didn't win.
    This is a "revenge game" for us. Or, this is payback.

    I think some of you simply are insecure and a sourpuss. Sore losers in sports don't belong. Seemingly, everything is emotionally charged for them.

    Next weekend, fans will see two rivalries ignited by emotions, pride and respect. How much motivation can one gain from disliking somebody? Plenty? Yup. There's the incentive...

    Baltimore versus Pittsburgh, New York versus New England. Let's hope that there aren't any serious injuries.

    To answer my original question, I'll say, I reckon I don't mind when players aren't fond of each other. You aren't paid to...

    On the other hand, as fun as it is to watch the team and the players of that team that you aren't a fan of lose. Honestly, it can become tiresome to read or listen to opposing players make themselves a distraction. Or, whenever the local media is involved. Then it becomes a broken record. Actually, I didn't take offense to the New York Post headline, "The Roar Vs. The Bore." My feeling is, whatever helps you to sell newspapers or attract online readership.



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    Re: Brady hates the Jets, Roethlisberger hates playing Baltimore

    The war of the words is one thing, but you still have to go out and win the game. Rex Ryan, Antoine Cromartie and teammates, and Terrell Suggs and teammates will eat crow if they fail to back up their boast and defamatory comments.

    What I find interesting is, the Jets, Baltimore and Pittsburgh all have a history with New England. A lot of trash talking... Makes you wonder just who are the real villains in all of this.



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    Re: Brady hates the Jets, Roethlisberger hates playing Baltimore

    there are few matchups in the NFL better than the 2 AFC matchups this week. both matchups have teams who hate each other, and within that, all 4 of these teams hate each other.

    Whoever wins this week and next will have conquered their greatest rival and their next greatest rival in consecutive weeks and deserve nothing less than a Superbowl championship.
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    Re: Brady hates the Jets, Roethlisberger hates playing Baltimore

    The ONLY thing this years playoffs is missing is an epic Pats-Colts matchup and it would be perrrrrrfect:D
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    Which of these 2 great AFC games this weekend do you consider to be the bigger and better rivalry of the two and for what reason?

    I think the Pats Jets games have had some great moments starting with the Parcells going to the Jets in the late 90s but I have to give the edge to the Ravens/Steelers since there is more no love loss IMO and they play brutal physical games.
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    Ravens/Steelers. Those games are always brutal. Pats/Jets I don't really consider it a rivalry seeing that the Patriots have dominated recent years.
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    Steelers Pats. I know, it wasn't an option, but at least those two have multiple championships in the last 10 years.
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    Maybe when the Jets beat the Pats in a playoff game it will become a rivalry. Right now it is just antagonism/hatred more than anything. Jets/Ravens has the hatred and both teams have been winners.
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    Ravens/Steelers - Both teams have legitimate playoff quarterbacks
    Patriots/Jets - Jets have a stiff at quarterback
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    Agreed.

    Both teams have a serious dislike for each other.

    Toss-Up IMO....
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    ^ exactly what I was going to type.

    Pats/Ravens
    Pats/Colts
    Pats/Steelers

    All are more of a rivalry than Pats/Jets, Pats/Ravens is debatable but i'm always more worried about that game. Also debatable because they Ravens have only been worth mentioning recently again since Flacco came.
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    Jets/Patriots has a lot more history. Ravens/Steelers is obviously very recent.

    Jets/Patriots has the foundation of NY/Boston. The rivalry of Yankees/Sox, Knicks/Celtics, etc.
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    Steelers / Ravens has just as much lopsidedness as the Patriots / Jets. Look at 2008, the Steelers swept the Ravens three times on their way to a Superbowl. Ravens haven't really beaten the Steelers when it matters.
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    How many times have the Patriots played the Jets in the playoffs during the Belichick era?
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    Lets see, 2 teams that have spent a decade beating up on each other in the AFCN, or a hammer and a nail?
    Tough one:rolleyes:
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    Steelers/Ravens

    Pats vs. Jets is more based on geographic proximity and the Boston vs. New York sports rivalry. They haven't actually done anything notable in the past decade like the Pats, Steelers, and Ravens have.
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    Pats/Colts tops them all this decade.
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    I hate to burst your bubble champ but you mean last decade.

    Steelers-Ravens easily. I don't recall to many blowouts in recent times.
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    Easy: Currently Steelers / Ravens. Both have had substantial success the last decade or so, and winning SB's. With the Pats / Jets, one has repeated success, the other is a "wanna-be", whose "one shining moment" was 42 years ago.
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    Personally I'd say Patriots/Jets, mind you, if I was a Steelers or Ravens fan I might choose that one. Pats/Jets are two teams that I am much more aware of for various reasons. Mind you, I'd love to watch the Steelers/Ravens game but have to work on saturday.
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    Steelers/Ravens and it isn't even close. The games are close and physical, and always turn into field position battles or go to OT. Both teams are fairly well run and buy strongly into the team concept.

    Pats/Jets is more a mutual hatred and less of a rivalry. We own them recently, and they have a dynasty going with regard to preseason Super bowls.

    I will certainly be watching the Sat game. I prefer the Ravens to the Steelers, but I'd rather see the Steelers in the AFCCG.
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    How can the pats-jets be a rivalry when the jets haven't won anything since Namath? How can pats-jets be a rivalry when we win the division almost every year.

    Pats-steelers is a major rivalry as well as pats-colts.

    With regards to BALT-PITT, this is a HUGE rivalry. Every year, they fight hard and often for the division.
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    Ravens Steelers.

    Classic 1974 AFC Championship, Steelers vs The Raiders (when they were bad, for real)
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    Will get you in the mood for some football, and ease some of this stress.
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    Sure, Steelers/Ravens for the "better rivalry this weekend." But for us old folk, Pats/Jets. Jets as underdog upstarts shown not to be worthy of mention in the same breath as the Pats? Sure fine uh huh, except that a month ago they were the two behemoths astride the league... in fact, it was the Pats that were considered to be playing over their head. It was a toss-up no more than four weeks ago, and now it's supposed to be a foregone conclusion... yeah, to this very subjective observer, Pats/Jets is still the better rivalry.

    But I know objectively the closer matchup is the better rivalry. But DAMN I'll hate the Jets if (as admittedly appears quite unlikely) we lose this one!
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    Jets vs. Patriots is not a rivalry, but can become one if Gang Green beats New England in playoffs
    Mike Loopyka
    The story was told to me a long time ago by my friend Ernie Accorsi, one of the best football guys of them all, one who goes back to Joe Paterno at Penn State and Johnny Unitas with the old Baltimore Colts, who finally became general manager of the Giants and helped build the team that did what the Jets coach talks and talks about doing on Sunday, which means beat Tom Brady.

    ...But this still gets treated like some big rivalry. It's not, even if this is essentially Boston and New York, two teams from the AFC East the way the Red Sox and Yankees are the AL East.

    For now the Jets are just an opponent, if a loud..., often annoying one...

    ...You know when the Red Sox and Yankees really became a rivalry? When the Red Sox finally won...The Jets have to go right through a winner like Brady the way the Red Sox went through Mo Rivera and Derek Jeter in October of 2004.

    (jets must) do something more than annoy the Patriots with their small resumes and big mouths.

    Up to now, Jets-Patriots has been a real rivalry only off the field. Bill Parcells left the Patriots and came to the Jets. Belichick left the Jets and went to the Patriots. Mo Lewis of the Jets knocked Drew Bledsoe to the sidelines and gave Brady his chance to be a starter and the rest is Patriots history and pro football history.

    You don't make a rivalry with good quotes. You don't help anything very much when you lose by six touchdowns in a big game of "Monday Night Football." If you are the Jets, you make one by beating Brady. Ernie Accorsi was right. Rivalries are give and take. The Jets need to do to Brady what the Giants did in Glendale. Give him a beating, take his season.

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    OT: What two teams hate each other more

    Pats and Jets or Ravens and Steelers

    Four hated division rivals who are going at it this week. Both sides of talked smack about the other...who hates each other more?
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    Re: OT: What two teams hate each other more

    It's the Ravens/Steelers by far.
    I consider the Colts a bigger rival than the Jets.
    The Jets are a whole lot of white noise who've never won anything and won't again this year.
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    I'm betting the R/S rivalry goes back to when the Ravens were the Cleveland Browns.
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    Re: OT: What two teams hate each other more

    This doesnt really make any sense Rhody.

    Pats lead the Jets 3-1 in superbowls. (or 6-1 in appearances)

    The Steelers lead the Ravens 6-1 in superbowls (or 7-1 in appearances)

    The success gap is even bigger in the Steelers - Ravens rivalry.
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