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Which of the following in the poll has been your favorite Patriots move by Belichick and the F.O.?
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I'll go with Gronk's extension
The next move
Either Gaffney or Lloyd. Went with Lloyd on the poll but it's close and I'll gladly take both.
Lloyd was my binkie, he makes the O much harder to defend.
Hightower and Jones may not have a large impact this year, so Lloyd it is for me.
I also think Fells is very important to provide some depth at TE, the lack of a 3rd TE option and an impact WR cost us a SB.
I also think Fanene could be a factor at DE....Could be the sleeper transaction of the year.
I should have added him in the poll as well
I was very excited when they added him. Hopefully today's injury turns out to be nothing.
Singing Brandon Lloyd = brilliant
Moving up for defensive help in the draft = awesome
Adding a bunch of savvy vets in FA = smart
Extending Rob Gronkowski through 2019 = priceless
They've done a lot of fantastic things, but signing Lloyd is the move that is going to push the offense over the top and make McDaniels the offensive coordinator of the two highest-scoring offenses of all time. I don't like the wording of "long bomb threat," though, because Lloyd is going to make a ton of plays that aren't "long bombs," but are still a piece that this offense was missing a year ago.
Lloyd by far..he can REALLY help this O out
Signing FAs is easy. Lloyd was a no brainer. He even stated that he wanted to follow Josh where ever he went. Moving up in the draft took some savvy trade talk and paid off. Signing Gronk into the distant future was genius. Working out that deal took experience, negotiating power and every trick in the book. IMO that was the best move.
Lloyd and Gronkowski deals were no brainers. Trading up twice in the first round was a pleasant surprise and I think we got 2 really good players.
All of them were great moves...except signing Stallworth which may or may not be good. Glad to see Josh back and ridding the O of Ocho early gives the other WR more reps to improve.
Loved to see BB actually move UP in the draft to grab 2 guys that should improve the defense in the near future.
a. Locking up Gronk has got to be the most far-reaching, look-to-the-future move bar none. He won't be catching passes from TFB forever, but he'll make nearly any QB look better. Stay healthy, Rob!
b. Glad to see Ocho moving on with a contract (he was far less the disaster than Haynesworth), he was no good here.
c. BLloyd signing was awesome, hope he flourishes with TFB, but we'll see come January whether that bucket holds water. I am a bit pessimistic with receivers that come to NE, whether by draft or by trade, for obvious reasons. It's frustrating!!
I mean, Lloyd almost begged to come to NE.
Hiring a great OC even before BOB had left was brilliant.
McDaniels for mine. That's a two pronged measure. 1. BB can annihilate the defense. 2. The offense will be taken care of. Always have to side with great coaching.
Lloyd + Mcdaniels + Tom Brady = endless deep balls being completed
I voted 'something else'.
Applying franchise tag to Wes Welker. I know it may not seem like that big of a decision, but it was a decision none the less. Considering that the two sides have yet to agree to a contract extension you could surmise that Welker would have been on another team for the last three months had the Pats not franchised him, and every other thread on this site would have been debate on how the team is going to replace his production.
I really want to say "Jonathan Fanene", because he played some real quality football for the Bengals whilst not being a starter. If given the chance to start he could become an absolute powerhouse.
However, easy move or not, the signing of Lloyd is without any doubt the best move we've made so far. He's a superb player who not only knows the offense, but has excelled in it. Put him next to one of the greatest QB's of all time, and you have a recipe for breath-taking production, not only for him, but for the team.
voted for Gronk - has immediate and long term impact. Not just as a player, but also as a signal for cap mgmt and ability to clear the financial negotiations table for other deals to be done.
the 1rnd draft picks look great; but they are unproven. we know how that can go in the not for long league; injuries, don't learn, do something stupid off the field..... BB does his best but you never know. And they are rookies so their short-term impact is bound to be less than Gronk. I think long term in 2 years maybe just by 2 players vs 1 gronk they are likely to have greater impact than Gronk in that season.
Lloyd. Yes, I really hope this proves me wrong and is actually a better deal than Gronk; but MY FEAR is....
Lloyd has more made his money (yds/TDs) by being the guy who can take the ball away from the defender [athleticism at the catch] and/or getting away as plays break down rather than getting immediate separation.
Brady (mostly) does not throw to a pre-determined point; he surveys the field and throws to the guy he sees is or believes will be open. Lloyd may very well be "OPEN" by Lloyd's definition - covered by a guy he can take the ball away from/keepthe ball from. But what does Brady see???
Brady may well see 'coverage' and go somewhere else. So while I am confident Lloyd will exceed 'Ocho' production; I am not so confident that he will dynamically change the offensive distribution. BUT I AM HOPEFUL THAT I WILL BE WRONG. (call it a concern versus fear if you will).
I see Lloyd as a 500-600 yard receiver on this team this season and third behind Gronk and Welker maybe even behind Hernandez.....injuries can change that though.
Gotta go with Jones and Hightower... for years folks on this board have whined and lamented about BB's penchant for not going for impact D players and the players they missed, on paper this year they have. While I have always trusted in BB, this year bore out my belief even more.
To move up for these guys is totally out of character and completely unexpected, but from all reports seems like a great move and will reap dividends..
Extending Gronk isn't that big of a deal imo..that was a no brainer.
As far as 2012 goes i think Lloyd is the best move followed by the suprise draft(just because those guys are unproven).
I think that hiring McDaniels was huge. We could have been in some uncertainty with our offense, no matter the players on board, had McDaniels not luckily been available. The F.O. was pretty quick to jump on that as well, kudos to them. Now we can go into the season with a baseline confidence with our offense and optimism regarding the new talents acquired.
Lloyd will help the offence. Brady missed that big deep WR. Even if he's only a 600 yard per year player, he will open up the offence and make defences respect the deep ball.
But the 2 draft picks in rd 1 should solidify our defense for years to come if they pan out as expected.
I voted for moving up to get D in the draft. But as much as I am enjoying the offseason some part of me feels like a Jets fan celebrating the offseason before we can see what it really means on the field.
From a this coming year perspective, I'm going to hope that Lloyd is the answer and all indictations look good. Spreading a defense out and making our best unit better could mean they are unstoppable and able to score/sustain drives as needed. Defenses will be left with aa great % of the field to defend and it will only take a couple (completed) deep balls per game to keep the mhonest.
From a long term perspective, we'll have to see how the defensive players turn out. so from a long term, I'd go with Gronk as he appears to be a special/transformational player for his position.
I went with "Moved up in 1st for two defenders", but I could have voted for any of the top four options.
Also, in addition to Lloyd, I'm really looking forward to seeing what using Vereen on screens is going to add to this offense.
Considering that Bolden and Ridley also appear to have some ability in this area as well, and also considering that the Pats may actually let a RB run it when he is in, it is more than blind homerism to suggest that this offense will be impossible to defend.
I entered the thread leaning toward Lloyd, however, the offense is already close to awesome even without him. The defense on the other hand has the most potential for improvement. And the secondary in particular needs the most help. So, being the optimist homer that I am, I'm hoping that the Tavon Martin selection is the best F.O. move.
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