Welcome to PatsFans.com

Best backup QBs

Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by mcbee, Sep 9, 2007.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. mcbee

    mcbee Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2006
    Messages:
    1,078
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    How high is Cassel? Is he one of the top 2 or 3 backups in the league?

    I think he could start for about 1/2 the teams in the league.
  2. Kdo5

    Kdo5 Rookie

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2005
    Messages:
    6,267
    Likes Received:
    4
    Ratings:
    +14 / 5 / -3

    Top 2 or 3? pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft. I am hoping this is some sort of joke.
    Last edited: Sep 9, 2007
  3. BadMoFo

    BadMoFo Rookie

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2007
    Messages:
    5,763
    Likes Received:
    7
    Ratings:
    +11 / 0 / -0

    Sure dude, you must be drank.
  4. Patjew

    Patjew PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2005
    Messages:
    9,595
    Likes Received:
    40
    Ratings:
    +85 / 2 / -1

    No Jersey Selected

    Top 2 or 3 on the Pats, maybe.
  5. PATRIOT64

    PATRIOT64 Rookie

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2006
    Messages:
    3,775
    Likes Received:
    7
    Ratings:
    +7 / 0 / -0

    Cassell sucks IMO -End of story

    The only reason we even talk about this guy is because he is wearing a Patriots uniform,otherwise this guy would be a joke in this forum,He will be a career 3rd or 4th QB elsewhere-Why do I say this? - Cause nothing I have really seen either in preseason or in garbage time tells me otherwise - Show me something than the usual wacky ducks he throws.

    I think BB likes him or he wouldn't have him around but why? - Who knows? - Maybe there aren't any real decent backups available too often

    Best backup QBs? - I'll take Croyle in KC (I think the kids not bad and is underated)
    and I hate to say this but if hes healthy Culpepper is right up there
    Last edited: Sep 9, 2007
  6. mcbee

    mcbee Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2006
    Messages:
    1,078
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    BB picked him and in BBWT :D :rocker:

    So he's definitely pro-bowl material.

    Do you think we should trade him for 2 #1s before his rookie contract is up?

    Technically they could use a franchise tag on him to keep him here, or as part of a 'tag and trade', do you think it would work?
  7. gomezcat

    gomezcat It's SIR Moderator to you Staff Member PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    3,551
    Likes Received:
    3
    Ratings:
    +3 / 0 / -0

    I agree. There is no way that we would even mention Cassel if he played elsewhere.

    As for Culpepper, I think that he would start on most teams if properly healthy, which he doesn't seem to have been for a long time.
  8. patchick

    patchick Moderatrix Staff Member PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    11,609
    Likes Received:
    317
    Ratings:
    +772 / 8 / -1

    #11 Jersey

    I agree that the 2004 vintage Culpepper would start for most teams, but so would the 1987 vintage Joe Montana. :) Them days are gone.

    It's nearly impossible to judge the best backup QBs because you never get a glimpse of the guys behind a Brady or Manning. So with the rare exception of a guy like Matt Schaub, we end up pointing to players like Culpepper because we've seen them on the field. But that just means we're choosing among the guys who've already managed to lose a starting job through ineffectiveness!
  9. Flying Fungi

    Flying Fungi Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    2,416
    Likes Received:
    2
    Ratings:
    +2 / 0 / -0

    Cassell isn't great, and doesn't suck and isn't worth a pair of #1s. He is a serviceable game management type backup to one of the best QBs in NFL history. He was selected and developed by one of the best coaches in NFL history.

    What do you people want?? Steve Young off the bench?? Name me ANY QB that garnered a pair of #1 picks?? Favre was a SINGLE #1.

    Reality check please.
  10. Mike the Brit

    Mike the Brit Minuteman Target PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    5,676
    Likes Received:
    140
    Ratings:
    +280 / 2 / -0

    Disable Jersey

    IBBWT

    Rohan > Huard

    Cassel > Rohan

    Ergo: Cassel > Huard ;)
  11. DaBruinz

    DaBruinz Pats, B's, Sox PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2005
    Messages:
    24,189
    Likes Received:
    164
    Ratings:
    +276 / 18 / -43

    #50 Jersey

    That is hardly the end of the story, regardless of your opinion.

    You clearly didn't watch pre-season this year. Particularly the Giants game or the Carolina game. Cassel played very well against the Giants 1st stringers. Cassel also played extremely well in 2005 when he played against Miami. But, why would you want to listen to the facts when you have your opinion.

    You sit there and pummel Cassel and then praise CROYLE? WOW...
  12. DaBruinz

    DaBruinz Pats, B's, Sox PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2005
    Messages:
    24,189
    Likes Received:
    164
    Ratings:
    +276 / 18 / -43

    #50 Jersey

    Sorry, this isn't fact. Rohan NEVER beat Huard for the #2 spot. The Pats TRIED to spoon feed the #2 spot to Rohan and all he did was puke it up on them. Its why Huard was the #2 during the 2004 play-off run and Davey wasn't. In all honesty, letting Huard go was a mistake.

    Cassel beat out Rohan in the same camp. Rohan never beat out Huard.
  13. Miguel

    Miguel Patriots Salary Cap Guru PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    4,151
    Likes Received:
    101
    Ratings:
    +275 / 2 / -0

    #75 Jersey

    It is surprising how many Day 1 picks are backups now.

    Boller, Carr, Rodgers, Quinn, Batch (I am probably missing a few others).

    With Warner, Feeley, Griese, Brad Johnson, and Volek available as backups, I can't rank Cassell above 7 of the above.

    But this is just my opinion.
  14. DaBruinz

    DaBruinz Pats, B's, Sox PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2005
    Messages:
    24,189
    Likes Received:
    164
    Ratings:
    +276 / 18 / -43

    #50 Jersey

    I put Cassel at about 6. Brad Johnson has looked horrible so far this year. Rodgers hasn't run Favre out of town yet. Feeley was never great. And Quinn is still an unknown, though Quinn could end up playing here in the next few weeks.
  15. He Ban Me

    He Ban Me Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2007
    Messages:
    1,671
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    Griese
    Leftwich
    Garcia
    Quinn
    Volek
    Culpepper
    Carr


    Are a few that I would take over Cassell.

    Oops,

    Add Batch and Feeley too. Not even top ten, but hopefully you guys won't have to test this theory.
    Last edited: Sep 9, 2007
  16. Gunnails

    Gunnails Rookie

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2007
    Messages:
    2,622
    Likes Received:
    4
    Ratings:
    +4 / 0 / -0

    Clemens is beter then Cassel.

    J E T S

    JETS

    JETS

    JETS
  17. cubicle_6

    cubicle_6 Rookie

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2007
    Messages:
    193
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    Who the heck knows where he ranks?? Nobody knows.
    He wouldn't be starting for any team in the NFL unless there are injuries.
    Doesn't mean he can't become a good QB. Seems kinda smart. Might actually become a star for all we know.
  18. MoLewisrocks

    MoLewisrocks PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2005
    Messages:
    19,949
    Likes Received:
    29
    Ratings:
    +29 / 0 / -0

    You people keep falling for mcbee's reverse logic Cassel is worth crap threads. What a bunch of dummies...

    BTW half of the so-called backups mentioned are/were starters who are either being groomed to replace the guys starting today, or being rehabbed in hopes they can start again because they have already failed miserably, or they are aging JAGS clawing for one last shot at landing/regaining a starting job. All of that makes none of them a fit for this team. And that's before we even get into their lack of capacity or intangibles so significant in running a BB offense...

    Of all the guys mentioned, I think Cassel is the best backup for this team, and that's really all that I care about. Quinn might be a good fit too, since Charlie groomed him in this offense, only since he wants to start in less than 8 years and cost a first, I'll pass on him over Cassel too. :D
  19. brady199

    brady199 Rookie

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2007
    Messages:
    1,464
    Likes Received:
    1
    Ratings:
    +7 / 0 / -1

    Just Before Brady's first NFL start, I'm sure he would be pretty low on this list as well.

    we just don't know, same with Clemons we just don't know.
    sorry jets jets jets.

    p.s. But we do know Brady is better than Pennington!!!
    Last edited: Sep 9, 2007
  20. everlong

    everlong Rookie

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2007
    Messages:
    5,878
    Likes Received:
    88
    Ratings:
    +151 / 1 / -1

    #12 Jersey

    I don't think there's a way for us to really rank him since he's never really seen game action (End of the game andMiami last game of the year excluded).

    Hopefully he won't get a shot any time soon but he could be Brady light or Ryan Leaf.
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page

unset ($sidebar_block_show); ?>