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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.It really is amazing how you all think these guys just come out and say these things on their own. You do understand that they are responding to questions regarding to these things, right? I'm sure the question to Pollard was something along the lines of what do you think about the rule changes and has it changed your style of play and what do you think of Tom Brady?
These aren't just out of nowhere comments by Pollard or by Flacco earlier in the day.
A question for Pats fans along those lines: Do you actually believe Pollard's hit on Brady was "cheap"?
Ummm...YES!!
What else did he think would happen when you dive at a players knee?
And before you say something stupid like " he was just trying to jump back up and not give up on the play", remember that he was being held down. How far up do you think he thought that he could jump up? was he making a desperation jump at Toms shoulders? give me a break.
I appreciate Fans of other teams coming here and stimulating conversation in a respectful way, but don't try to defend a leap at a players knee. It makes you come off like an (*)hole
That doesn't make sense. You say before I say something stupid like "he was trying to jump back up and not give up on the play" and you agree that he was being held down.... so he should of just laid there and stayed held down on the ground? Please explain what you expected the man to do because it sounds like you wanted him to stay laying down.
That doesn't make sense. You say before I say something stupid like "he was trying to jump back up and not give up on the play" and you agree that he was being held down.... so he should of just laid there and stayed held down on the ground? Please explain what you expected the man to do because it sounds like you wanted him to stay laying down.
That doesn't make sense. You say before I say something stupid like "he was trying to jump back up and not give up on the play" and you agree that he was being held down.... so he should of just laid there and stayed held down on the ground? Please explain what you expected the man to do because it sounds like you wanted him to stay laying down.
The problem here in this thread is that a few Ravens fans thought they could come in here and whine about the "Brady rule", armed with Bleacher Report-level knowledge, but they were woefully unprepared to back up their "assertions". Now, they're butthurt and trolling it up. Eh...
But yes, I agree with a couple of the above comments. There have been a couple of good Ravens posters. If you happen to be one of those, check out the threads started by Jays52 and patfranken. Good reads.
That doesn't make sense. You say before I say something stupid like "he was trying to jump back up and not give up on the play" and you agree that he was being held down.... so he should of just laid there and stayed held down on the ground? Please explain what you expected the man to do because it sounds like you wanted him to stay laying down.
Man I dunno. I watch that and it's not all that clear to me whether Pollard was leaping toward Brady and pushed down by the blocker or if he was just going low all along. It's one thing to have your suspicions but I am kind of confounded by the certainty some of you have that Pollard was trying to hurt Brady on that play.
I guess another thing I would say is that there are hundreds of illegal or barely-legal hits in the NFL every year. If Pollard is a dirty player, so be it, but as far as I know he doesn't have that reputation amongst his peers. It's funny how people judge each other so harshly based on consequences of their actions instead of the actions themselves. If Brady hadn't gotten hurt, would you really think that play was any worse than your average roughing the kicker call or late hit?
All that aside, his comments are stupid, I mean there is absolutely no benefit to saying the things that he said.
Tom Brady Out for the Season - YouTube
Please watch that video and tell me he wasn't still being pushed down by the back. I'm not even arguing whether or not it was breaking the rules, I'm arguing that it wasn't a dirty, cheap play. That looks like a completely natural play with no ill intent whatsoever. He is chopped down, getting back up and while getting up is being blocked back down and yes he "lunges" at Brady but what exactly would you like him to do right there in that situation???? Please watch the video and explain what he could of done in that position and how that wasn't a natural and completely normal reaction. I love how you guys claim I'm "seeing what I want to see." You all are definitely the ones wrong on this one (in terms of it being some cheap shot).
DaBruinz said:Does that make it a "cheap" shot? No. It makes it a stupid move by an ignorant player.
Culpability goes a long way here, Not Trolling. Culpability can be defined as "[the] measure of the degree to which an agent, such as a person, can be held morally or legally responsible. Culpability marks the dividing line between moral evil, like murder, for which someone may be held responsible and natural evil, like earthquakes, for which no one can be held responsible."
Nobody can raise doubt as to pollard's intent, given that:
1) No reasonably safe hit could be performed, given pollard's location in respect to:
a) his location, as he was on the ground when he lunged;
b) his proximity to the quarterback's knees when he lunged;
c) the likelihood that pollard might make contact with a vulnerable locus.
2) His demeanor and attitude after the hit:
a) Quote: ""That's the pretty boy. That's the man of the NFL. That's Mr. Do-It-All," he said. "So everybody is going to hold that against me but I don't care." Read more here: http://www.sunherald.com/2012/01/18/3695368/years-later-bernard-pollard-still.html#storylink=cpy"
He tells on himself with that quote... reading between the lines, I see pure vitriolic envy to the point where any opportunity to destroy the source of envy is virtuous, in his diseased eye.
This punk is cancerous to the league, and you should be outraged that he plays.
That doesn't make sense. You say before I say something stupid like "he was trying to jump back up and not give up on the play" and you agree that he was being held down.... so he should of just laid there and stayed held down on the ground? Please explain what you expected the man to do because it sounds like you wanted him to stay laying down.
We were typing virtually the same counter-arguments at the same time.
You took the words right out of my mouth. (more like typed them faster and more eliquently than I could..lol)
Yes it is.
Most roughing the kicker calls and late hits aren't targeted at the support knee. They also usually don't result in a season ending (SOMETIMES CAREER THREATENING) injury.
Like I said to your Birdy-Buddy,.. What did Pollard think he could accomplish while froggy hopping at Brady's lower body?
Nothing within his jump range was a legal hit.
and as final prof of my point, I enter into evidence.. "Exhibit A",.. Your last sentence that I highlighted. By his comments alone he clarified his intentions.
So please... for the love of god... both of you stop trying to defend the mans intentions when he clearly revels in his own ill-intents, and states them publically.
He clearly doesn't want/doesn't benefit fom your defense.
WOW, Ravens fans sure love to defend the actions of their thug players.
Pollard was a Raven when Brady got her boo-boo?
Pollard was a Raven when Brady got her boo-boo?
A question for Pats fans along those lines: Do you actually believe Pollard's hit on Brady was "cheap"?