Welcome to PatsFans.com

Ben Watson like Ben Coates ?

Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by italian pat patriot, Aug 29, 2006.

  1. italian pat patriot

    italian pat patriot Rookie

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2005
    Messages:
    3,959
    Likes Received:
    12
    Ratings:
    +18 / 1 / -0

    #12 Jersey

    the pre-season is saying us, and we expected it, that Benjamin Watson could be one of the main target (if not the main target if Branch will leave us) for Tom Brady like in the past Ben Coates was for Drew Bledsoe

    i think that Watson could have an awesome career

    do you think he can become like Ben Coates ?

    for me: yes-no doubt
  2. PATSNUTme

    PATSNUTme Paranoid Homer Moderator Staff Member PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2005
    Messages:
    15,273
    Likes Received:
    88
    Ratings:
    +183 / 2 / -1

    #75 Jersey

    He's not there yet but he is on his way.
  3. smg93

    smg93 Rookie

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2006
    Messages:
    1,811
    Likes Received:
    1
    Ratings:
    +1 / 0 / -0

    #54 Jersey

    Give him a little more time but in terms of promise, yes, he really could become as effective as Ben Coates was in the 90's.
  4. borg

    borg On the Roster

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2004
    Messages:
    4,044
    Likes Received:
    106
    Ratings:
    +257 / 18 / -17

    Yes...Yes
    Ben Coates made me alot of money his breakout year with the Pats. I took him as my 3rd receiver in a fantasy league and was laughed out of the room at the time. (Having Jerry Rice on my roster didn't hurt either).
    Watson will be very valuable because he can handle all 3 stat categories...TDs, # of catches, yards.
    The difference between Coates and Watson is significant. Coates thrived because of the pushoff. Watson will thrive because of speed. He presents a huge problem for D coordinators. If they use a LB at the line to jam him, running opportunities will open up and Graham will see less impeded opportunities. If the LBs layoff, the underneath route will be available for Watson and allow Troy Brown to stay out of the slot. I can't wait to see how the Pats deploy this group.
  5. Isaac

    Isaac Rookie

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2005
    Messages:
    749
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    I don't really see the comparison. You could throw it to Coates with 3 guys around him and he'd snatch the ball then carry those three guys downfield. He wasn't particularly fast. It seems that Watson is going to get separation from defenders and then beat them with speed---not that he can't play physical, but it's not his primary strength. Coates also had incredible hands, it's unlikely Watson will ever go a season with a drop or two like Coates did.
  6. smg93

    smg93 Rookie

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2006
    Messages:
    1,811
    Likes Received:
    1
    Ratings:
    +1 / 0 / -0

    #54 Jersey

    The comparison is about production not style.
  7. Murphys95

    Murphys95 Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    793
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    I agree with Borg & Isaac. Coates and Watson are both very different in their style. Coates ran his routes well, but was most successful due to his strength and uncanny ability to push-off at the right time. He didn't have nearly the speed that Watson has.

    If anything, Ben Watson might have greater potential than Ben Coates. Watson is able to line up in the slot, and his speed will earn him longer pass plays than Coates.

    In terms of production, I don't think it's farfetched for Watson to put up numbers like Coates did in his hey-day - we're talking 60-80 receptions a year and around 8 tds per seaon.

    Watson is also a product of a different offense - the simple fact that Brady isn't always looking for "one" receiver may keep Watson's production down (as opposed to Bledsoe who looked to throw to Coates even when he was quadruple covered!).
  8. kptmorgan04

    kptmorgan04 Rookie

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2005
    Messages:
    507
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    exactly.... I think we all thought/hoped that Grahm would be in the coates mold with size and hands. didnt turn out exactly how planned obviously, but I still hope he gets resigned and has a productive healthy year this year
  9. Armen Da Pats Fan

    Armen Da Pats Fan Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    1,572
    Likes Received:
    2
    Ratings:
    +2 / 0 / -0

    It's so funny you said that because the other night vs. Washington, Watson made a catch over his shoulder while running down the middle of the field on a laser from Brady.

    I swear, at the time, I had a flashback to old #87. It just LOOKED like a Coates grab!

    ADPF
    Last edited: Aug 29, 2006
  10. italian pat patriot

    italian pat patriot Rookie

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2005
    Messages:
    3,959
    Likes Received:
    12
    Ratings:
    +18 / 1 / -0

    #12 Jersey

    yes. i was meaning it.
  11. FloridaPatsFan

    FloridaPatsFan Rookie

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2005
    Messages:
    941
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    Ben Coates was a special player. Ben Watson is appearing to be as well. My 2 thoughts on this subject is that while Coates was physically difficult to handle, Watson has Jaw-dropping strength PLUS speed. I also think that had Ben Coates played with Brady when Coates was in his prime, he would probably have set untouchable recieving records. I know that Bledsoe loved throwing to Coates but Brady does everything better and would have KILLED defenses with the dump off to Coates.

    Daniel Graham is no slouch and he is already in Watson's shadow. I would say that Watson could and probably will become the #1 TE in the NFL with more comparisons to Gonzalez of KC than Ben Coates.

    Interesting subject......
  12. Isaac

    Isaac Rookie

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2005
    Messages:
    749
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    You know I thought of that too when I was responding, almost wrote "except for that one pass against the Skins", but it seemed too vague. Hey, if Watson can catch balls in traffic anything like Coates could, I'm all for it!
  13. italian pat patriot

    italian pat patriot Rookie

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2005
    Messages:
    3,959
    Likes Received:
    12
    Ratings:
    +18 / 1 / -0

    #12 Jersey

    IF Benjamin Watson should really produce (and the game against WSH probably will be not 'alone') like Ben Coates.

    wow...

    let's hope so but i loved him like never after his play @ DEN in play-offs game
    and this year could be a force

Share This Page

unset ($sidebar_block_show); ?>