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    You can bet that the Belichick hating media is polishing up their articles on how Pioli schooled Belichick on todays trade.

    I can only imagine the articles we are going to be seeing this week from
    Ron Borges, Michael Felger, Tom Curran, and Tony Massarotti.

    Will they ever learn?

    The media questioned Belichick's decision to draft Seymour instead of
    David Terrell. Seymour became an all pro & David Terrell is one of the biggest
    top 10 busts in NFL history.

    The media questioned Belichick's decision to stick with Brady and trade
    Bledsoe after the 2001 season. Brady has won 2 more rings since then and
    Bledsoe's got intercepted by the King in a BurgerKing commercial.

    The media questioned Belichick's decision to cut Lawyor Milloy the week
    before the 2003 season started. When we lost the season opener 31-0 to Bledsoe,
    Milloy and the Buffalo Bills the media was calling for Belichicks head.
    How did that season turn out?

    When Brady got hurt in the opener of the 2008 season, the media was calling for
    the Patriots to go out and get a Brad Johnson, or a Daunte Culpepper
    veteran. They said that Cassel should have been cut in preseason.
    Belichick said that Matt Cassel was his quarterback after a shaky game
    early in the season. Cassel continued to develop and got us a high draft pick.

    Let's wait to see how Cassel does in KC & what we get with the #34 pick.
    If that pick turns out to be an ALL PRO and Cassel struggles in KC, Belichick
    will have the last laugh on the media as usual.
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    Now THAT made me laugh out loud!
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    The fans around the NFL have got to be thinking 'oh sheet' when they look at the Patriots.
    -Brady appearently coming back and he should be very anxious to get back to the big game.
    - what other team has better draft choices in the first three rounds?
    - wait to the media starts with 'can BB win without Piolli'?
    - cap space
    This from a team that won 11 games last year.
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    And, oh yeah, let's not forget they arguably have an even better backup at QB then they had to start 2008. . . . :D
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    Cassel is going to have a good career in KC; that said, we are going to get a pro bowler who plays for us for ten years with the 34
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    Thow me in with the media.. I hope BB makes everyone look foolish but on the face this looks bad.. really bad..
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    I'm selling my season tickets - - no way I'm going to pay big money to watch a Patriots team without Cassel now. I'll be putting them up on the ticket exchange over the next few weeks.
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    Opening a roster spot, significant cap space and turning a 7th round QB into a top #2 pick?

    Wow. A really bad day for you must involve misplacing your pocket lint.
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    Bwahaha! 50 points.
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    Here's my problem with the situation.. its not a 7th round pick. They vested time and money into cassel. All we heard is they were asking for a boat load of picks.. And today they lost two starting players and walked around with a #2 pick in the 2nd round..

    Schuab deal got atlanta more.. Culpepper and Feeley were traded for 2nd rounders.. Your telling me those 3 are as good or better than Cassel? NO freakin way..

    Yes we have money and yes we have the draft pick.. But is there a player out there that excites you in the free market?

    BB was fleeced and the defense is in serious trouble this year.. They lost their most versatile and team leader today.. never mind a damn good QB.
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    Didn't you want to cut Cassel and keep Gutierrez last summer?

    How bad can it be to have the 34th pick in the draft for a guy who wouldn't play for you next year anyway?
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    1st, that doesn't matter.. Time and money was vested into Cassel.. But to be honest and to answer your question.. Hell no.. I actually thought we were keeping 4 on the roster..
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    So Cassel was going to be our QB?

    And do you honestly believe Vrabel would still be a starter this year if draft a stud OLB?

    I don't.

    We unloaded two players who would make much less impact next year than the pick and saved cap space will. I'd say write it down, but that's so un-green. Blog that, homey.
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    I for one, am disgusted with this garbage trade. Trash me if you want, but it looks very likely that KC will end up with Cassel, Vrabel and Curry while the Pats added one second round pick. Wow, good deal.
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    Was cassel going to be our QB?? I'll answer by saying.. Are you 100% sure Brady is going to be ready??
    How about this.. Cassel is probably a top 13 qb in the league.. Would you expect more than a #2 pick for a TOP 13 QB in a SPORT that is QB driven?

    And yes I believe Vrabel, at a reduced salary, would be our starter.. Because no one knows how the draft is going to fall.. PLus if we got this "STUD" LB, he would not START.. When is the last time, besides Mayo a defensive player started the season.. No to Wilfork, Seymour, Warren,.....

    We rotate rookies.. Its a fact..
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    And is it still a garbage trade if Cassel turns into the next Huard and Vrabel is one and done????
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    THANK YOU!! I agree 100%
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    yup.. like the #34 blows out his knee walking to get water in training camp.. I'll taken a proven asset over a unknown talent that hasn't even been picked yet..
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    I dunno... the gall of AD breaking his arm... I mean Harrison shredding his quad... I mean Brady messing up his knee... I mean...

    Dude/Ma'am - I suggest some herbal tea and a couple of walks around the block. Maybe pet a dog or hold a baby. It's gonna be ok. The sun will shine again.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU1jCwyDgxw
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    It's certainly possible that Belichick will make the media look foolish, but that would require a MAJOR mis-evaluation by Pioli. Pioli should have a better idea than anyone (other than McDaniels who also was reportedly interested) about what type of player Matt Cassel is.

    For Belichick to make the media look foolish, Cassel will have to be a bottom ten NFL starting QB. If he's better than that, a 2nd round pick was a small price to pay.
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    If you just look at the deal in a vacuum, Belichick got raped. If you look at it as Belichick doing Pioli a favor while getting Cassel and Vrabel a nice situation to go to, BB did a solid for some people he likes.

    But, let's not pretend that Belichick somehow snookered Pioli, or anyone, or even broke even for what should have been gotten, on this deal.
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    I gotta Question for you McSully did you really want to keep nearly a quarter of you salary cap on 2 players one of which would hardly get to play if at all, which would force you to not go after many players to improve your team. Or would you rather dump te salray and take the risk that the 34th best player in the draft ends up as a failure.
    Me i'd rather take a risk becasue with the extra money your are saving can be called insurance
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    No-one is pretending the deal is better for us than them, but it's better for us than being left undone. I think they knew they would have to deal low and fast or go into next year as the retirement home of the NFL.

    There's no "favour" going down here. Cassel likely picked limited landing pads and Bill is running out of time/money to make some hits in FA.

    If Matt never played, Vrabel likely gets dumped anyway and Matt walks away into obscurity. The deal would be rape if it were Thomas and Brady. but it wasn't.
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    I think as good as MC was he was in a system which had a now head coach as OC , the best dump reciever in football(Welker) and a solid system and line.

    I do think we might have flattered him and if that is true and KC don't go 8-8+ then everyone will be saying 34 looked pretty good?


    How strong do we think this draft is???? mixed opinions on the net. But some say strongest since Rivers et al year.

    Ben
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    What i gotta wonder is how can you all be so sure that the Pats were asking for a lot the deal got done 2 days after it was allowed to be done. If any of you were were there in all the meeting with BB et al tell us what really happened other then that don't assume there were asking for a lot
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    We'll see how happy you are when the defense can't stop (dog stuff)
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    Will it be worse than this year? Cuz I enjoyed myself pretty well despite the fact that they couldn't stop Jim Brown circa 2009.
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    According to multiple reports, there were better offers on the table sources and the Patriots passed them up.

    Belichick did Pioli a solid. It's not a big deal, but pretending otherwise is looking more and more ridiculous as time goes by.
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    Instead of Pioli, I'd say BB did the Patriots a favor by sending Cassel to the Chiefs. They still won't be a playoff team until maybe next year. Much better than sending him to the Jets/Bucs/Broncos/Vikes whom we could be facing in the Playoffs/SB
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