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    Not that he'd say otherwise...

    http://www.beloblog.com/ProJo_Blogs/PatsBlog/2008/08/monday-belichic.html

    This falls under the category of "what else was he going to say?" Hobson is running with the 3rd stringers in practice and in the preseason games. So this is likely a case of BB just being politically correct.
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    I think he's trying to say Hobson can use BB as a reference for his next job
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    I can go both ways on Hobson...half of me says he doesnt seem to be getting it and get rid of him for the youth but the other half says here is a young vet who has performed well in this league (see tw seasons ago) do we want to give up on him because of some TC struggles?
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    I think we all realize that Belichick is the biggest Bull Sh!tter in the history of Coach to Media relations during press conferences so I would take ANYTHING Belichick says at these press conferences with a grain of salt
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    I watched that press conference live today and my only explanation was that it simply wasn't true...but that's fine with me!
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    Yup. He has nothing else to say though. "Well, he's playing with the 3rd stringers and a UDFA rookie has surpassed him on the depth chart, other than that, he's been awesome!"
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    is there a consensus that he's going to be cut? We all saw what Reiss wrote about him not playing 1st-team special teams last game.
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    Nobody knows, but guys who are new to the team and expected to contribute (Fernando Bryant, Jerod Mayo, Terrence Wheatley) were tossed into the pre-season pool to sink or swim. Hobson has barely got a toe wet, which cannot bode well for his chances.
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    I don't believe anything Belichick says in public, but there is a chance he could actually be telling the truth. I don't think any of us focus in on him on every play and none of us watch practices since training camp has ended. Odds are he is just using coach speak, but there is a slight chance that Belichick does believe what he said.
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    A couple of times Bill seems to be fixing on some invisible point to get through the answer with a straight face. Could just be me but... it isn't.
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    I haven't been able to watch any PS games, nor any of TC. However, I predict Hobson will make this team (unless Seau is brought in prior to the regular season--even then I think it's doubtful that Hobson gets cut). He's a veteran, is versatile, and therefore has value to BB.

    I hope the Pats don't prove me wrong--they signed this guy for a reason and unless he is just completely "not who we thought he was!!" he'll make the 53.
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    Like Bill said in his presser today, they have to use evaluation of past film and past performance as well. That would be the only reason Hobson makes this team, as right now, he's behind Guyton on the depth chart. Personally, I had high hopes for Hobson, I thought he could rotate with Bruschi at SILB on running downs.
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    Think of it this way: at any point they can axe Hobson and slide Seau into his spot. Not a bad position to be in, if you ask me. Still, I wouldn't start biting my nails if they dropped him like a hot potato for one of the rookies.
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    It's odd, because it's not like I've seen any BAD plays he's made. He's simply invisible. That's not always a bad thing, could mean he's playing solid but just isn't the one making the plays.

    Or, could mean he's got no nose for the ball in this type of defense.

    It's hard to say, and BB's comments don't really shed any light. At this point, I will not be suprised, stunned, excited, or disappointed no matter what we do with Hobson. He's just kind of... there at the moment.
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    Your point about not seeing any bad plays is a valid one. He is probably looking invisible because he so far down the depth chart but at the same time we haven't seen any Beisel type plays out of him. Which leads back to the fact that it is taking him longer to grasp the system/new position than anyone expected but if that is the case do you just cut bait or do hang onto him in hopes that if he does grasp it that we would than be getting the guy that put up some big numbers a year or two ago.
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    Personally, I think you hang on to him for now. I think he fills a backup role at both ILB and OLB, and is better inside than Eric Alexander or Larry Izzo. In a few weeks, if Seau is ready to come back and he still hasn't stepped up, you cut him then and bring in Seau. But what if by then Bruschi has gone down, or Mayo has regressed? I still think he's probably the best insurance policy for those two, after Seau.
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    I think that this fact is the reason he had a better than remote shot at making the 53 man roster. Belichick is all about versatility. Hobson can provide depth outside if someone goes down which could be very useful. As of right now, I wouldn't want him to get significant time at either position, but he could get better inside and contribute.
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    For what it is worth, Both DeOsie and Smerlas believe Hobson will make the team. Pete Sheppard went a little too far and said he might even start.
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    What depth chart would that be? The one that BB uses?

    There is the very REAL potential that BB has kept Hobson out of the games to let guys like Mayo and Guyton get the reps that BB KNOWS they need. And before you say "Well, why is Bruschi playing" its because Bruschi is the one calling the defensive plays for the team. They need him out there so that he can help instruct Mayo and such.

    While Reiss gave Eric Alexander a "vote of confidence," Reiss is also the one who predicted that the Pats would take Beason last year and I believe he had them taking someone else this year. Don't get me wrong. Reiss is the man. But not everything he tells us is the script given by the Pats.
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    While I hope you're right, I think that's reading too much into the tea leaves. The most straightforward interpretation of where someone plays in practice and in preseason games is where they line up on the depth chart. If that wasn't the case, Rodney would play in the 4th qtr and Mark Dillard would play in the 1st. Moss would play late and Jones would play early. Am I missing an example of where that's happening?

    There's no way they should give preseason reps to some rookie UDFA linebacker over a veteran FA, unless the rookie is showing something the veteran is not.

    I was a big supporter of Hobson after the signing, and I agree with those who think he has a solid shot at the roster, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if he's cut.
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    Belichick saying this is the same as a GM vouching for the manager line of BS.

    Let's face it ... is Hobson that bad or is Mayo that good.
    Hobson was insurance from a thin crop of FA's ... nothing more.
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    he must really think the media is stupid eh? (not that hed be wrong)
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    Obviously not everything Reiss says is gospel but to try and discredit him by saying some of his draft perdictions were wrong is just plain naive.
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    I really think Hobson will make the team. He's a wily vet, though he has been invisible in the preseason.

    Always seemed to have great games against the Patriots when he was with the Jets, though.
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    Well I'll hope you're right. But it wouldn't have to do with Mayo - Mayo's starting spot is pretty secure as long as Seau is not on the roster. Bruschi, Hobson and Guyton have all been at SILB in the preseason, and Mayo has been WILB, and he's been on the field on passing downs as well. So I don't think Mayo's considerable playing time in the preseason is just for the sake of getting reps - I think we'll see him play the same amount come Week 1 in KC.

    As for Guyton - I wouldn't see any reason why Guyton would come in first other than if he was higher on the depth chart than Hobson. He could get as many snaps playing w the 3's. And it has nothing to do with Bruschi being out there to instruct him - Guyton replaces Bruschi at SILB when he comes in.

    So I'd like to believe you're right and that there's more to it, but for now, I don't see the evidence. If Hobson were practicing with the 1s or 2s and then coming in for garbage time in preseason, that'd be one thing, but we've yet to see any evidence that Hobson is going to get playing time come regular season.
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    Wow, the people on this forum are going nuts over the preseason. Honestly, how many snaps has Hobson even played so far? And if it's not many, don't you think that might be because, like the other veterans, he's played in a similar system and doesn't need the playing time? Why subject him to injury if he's got the defense down already, as BB said?

    What is that makes him so bad--have you seen him using poor technique, misreading plays, missing tackles, or what? Are you just basing all this hoopla on stats?

    He's a veteran player with a proven track record of solid play in the NFL. He may not be having the best pre-season ever--I don't know, since I don't bother watching the preaseason games-- but then I doubt the ability of 95% of people on this board to scout out the linebacking position anyway. After all, we have people on here who seriously believe that Ray Ventrone is going to replace Heath Evans, LaMont freaking Jordan doesn't have a place on the team, and Chad Jackson is the next T.O.

    Belicheck isn't going to judge Victor Hobson, a veteran 3-4 linebacker of 6 years, by three or four mediocre performances in the pre-season--not when he has years of coach referrals and footage to fall back on. Let's get a grip here folks. The guy gives us some great depth at linebacker. A lot more than some unproven rookie (read: guyton, redd) who's never played in a single regular season game could.

    Go to patriots.com and actually look at the depth chart. Hobson is a second-stringer, and he'll likely be subbing in for Bruschi. In that role, he adds tremendous value to the team.

    If he fails in the regular season, we cut him and THEN sign one of those rookies.
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