Welcome to PatsFans.com

Belichick Press Conference 10/16/09

Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by weswelker#83, Oct 16, 2009.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. weswelker#83

    weswelker#83 In the Starting Line-Up

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2007
    Messages:
    4,540
    Likes Received:
    9
    Ratings:
    +12 / 0 / -0

    10/16/09
    Q: With the trade deadline coming up on Tuesday, why is it difficult at this time of year for a team like yours to upgrade a position and make a trade?

    BB: Well, there are two things that make trading difficult in the National Football League. No. 1 is depth. I know there are some injuries in baseball, but there aren't too many. For the most part, those guys don't get hurt; they play all year. Whereas in football, you have more of that. You really have to think about trading somebody because who are you going to replace them with? You probably don't have anybody, so that's just one less player that you have and no one has - generally speaking - excess players at any position where you can just get rid of them and then have somebody to replace them. That's one issue. And the other issue, of course, is the system. [You] bring in a player this late in the year that doesn't know your system and hasn't been with you. At this point in time, we've had over half the practices for the entire year that have already occurred because of the number we have in training camp and in preseason. [To] bring in a player now and teach him your system is tough because - even if he learns it on paper, or in a playbook and [is] actually going out there and doing it - [there are] limited opportunities, so you trade for a guy and by the time you get him ready to go, the season is over.
    Now, in the Jets/Cleveland case with Braylon Edwards, I think there are a lot of circumstances around that, but from a scheme standpoint, there's quite a bit of similarities from the Cleveland scheme to the Jets scheme, and they probably felt like this was a player that they could catch up scheme-wise. Every case is different, but I think that might have tipped the scale a little bit. You see more of those kinds of moves in preseason when there is an advantage to getting the guys in there and being able to spend that kind of time with them and those number of practices.

    Press conference:
    Bill Belichick Press Conference
     
    Last edited: Oct 16, 2009
  2. bigfandan

    bigfandan Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2009
    Messages:
    524
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    #12 Jersey

    How did the scheme match so well? Just curious.

    Does anyone think Edwards could fit in our offense pretty well too? He seems to be a go-get-it type of tall receiver that would thrive anywhere.
     
  3. KontradictioN

    KontradictioN Do you even lift? PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2006
    Messages:
    27,488
    Likes Received:
    643
    Ratings:
    +1,884 / 31 / -48

    No Jersey Selected

    My guess is that he played for Eric Mangini, who probably brought Brian Schottenheimer's style of offense with him to Cleveland. From watching their games, the Browns' offensive play calling has been similar to the Jets' offensive play calling. The only difference is that the Jets are able to move the ball while the Browns aren't.
     
  4. signbabybrady

    signbabybrady Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2007
    Messages:
    8,987
    Likes Received:
    108
    Ratings:
    +182 / 1 / -1

    #24 Jersey

    terminolgy is likely similar for that same reason
     
  5. SVN

    SVN Hall of Fame Poster

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2005
    Messages:
    22,810
    Likes Received:
    93
    Ratings:
    +201 / 3 / -0

    somemore classics
     
  6. patsfan-1982

    patsfan-1982 In the Starting Line-Up

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2007
    Messages:
    4,151
    Likes Received:
    14
    Ratings:
    +50 / 8 / -2

    i think Edwards would fit in and make play's with any team

    they traded for burgess and he got a whole TC perseason

    and he still is not geting it done

    seymour was with oakland 3 day's and still got 2 sack's in he's first game

    if the BB system is that hard to pick up then maybe he should get a new one

    in 10 year's he has not drafted one OLB in the first or 2th round because they dont fit he's system


    dont get me worng im not calling for him to get fired

    but come on he play's a defense that live's and die's with the play of the LB's yet they do noting to bring in young LB's that can get to the QB
     
    Last edited: Oct 17, 2009
  7. MoLewisrocks

    MoLewisrocks PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2005
    Messages:
    19,949
    Likes Received:
    29
    Ratings:
    +29 / 0 / -0

    Brian Daboll left here in a snit over not getting the OC nod after 5 years as the WR's coach here and then not even getting the QB's coaching job when Josh was officially named the OC here. Eric named him the QB coach for the JETS so he worked for Shottenheimer and coached his offense for the last two seasons. He was in line to be his replacement since Shotty Jr. was not a Mangini hire and was becoming a scapegoat in NY. Had Brian installed the system he learned here in Cleveland as Josh did in Denver, things might have gone better for he and Eric - not to mention Brady Quinn who ran it for Charlie at ND.
     
  8. MoLewisrocks

    MoLewisrocks PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2005
    Messages:
    19,949
    Likes Received:
    29
    Ratings:
    +29 / 0 / -0

    What a crock. You have no idea how Edwards would do anywhere. You're basing judgements on one game post trade adreneline fueled performances. Seymour hasn't replicated his and there is no way to know if Edwards will, either. The knock on Edwards has been inconsistency. Wait 'til teams game plan to shut him down and the drops start coming.

    And despite his performance his team lost last week because they couldn't defend the wildcat or stop a rookie QB in his first NFL start, and is tossing each other under the bus postgame like they're from Cleveland... We will have to wait and see how Braylon deals with it if they are blaming the trade for a talented but inconsistent WR for the collapse of Rex Ryan's increasingly shaky and undisciplined defenses performance down the stretch...

    Bill believes you have to prove you can walk before you run on offense and defense. As opposed to HC's who believe you win superbowls in September. That's why he's taken teams to 7 of them and helped them win 5 rings in the process. You don't get results like those listening to the peanut gallery's suggestions.
     
  9. robertweathers

    robertweathers Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2006
    Messages:
    7,768
    Likes Received:
    14
    Ratings:
    +49 / 1 / -0

    "Defer to the fans and the media on that one"

    So condecending. So funny!
     
    Last edited: Oct 17, 2009
  10. MoLewisrocks

    MoLewisrocks PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2005
    Messages:
    19,949
    Likes Received:
    29
    Ratings:
    +29 / 0 / -0

    Particularly because so many honestly believe he actually should.
     
  11. pencilneckgeek

    pencilneckgeek Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2006
    Messages:
    921
    Likes Received:
    72
    Ratings:
    +193 / 4 / -1

    No Jersey Selected

    Reading that on this board makes it even funnier. We spend lots of time voicing our opinions, but precious little analyzing game film and none watching the players perform in practice. I'd daresay that most weeks, Belichick (to say nothing of his assistants) probably puts more time into those essentials of player evaluation than the entire Patriots media and fanbase put together. He should be condescending.
     
  12. bigfandan

    bigfandan Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2009
    Messages:
    524
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    #12 Jersey

    I agree with every thing you said.

    Comparing with other teams, our system does not seem to take advantage of players ability as quickly as other teams. We have a long list of failed free agents that presumably can't pick up our system even with the whole off-season and PS (gallaway, burgess, lewis, lenon). On other hand we do see players go to other teams and immediately make impact (example braylon edwards, big sey, and even Greg Lewis). Sometimes with only a couple of days of practices (Sey and Edwards).

    Year after year we use the same knocks on LB prospects "they don't fit our scheme" and pass on guys like David Harris, Lamarr Woodley, Ray Maualuga that would be so great to have now instead of "Senior" Seau.

    Maybe it is right to question the scheme, no? Maybe it is too old school. What's it about the steep learning curve with NEP? The scheme does not (seem to) have more disguises than other schemes out there. Why not keep it simple and maximize players' natural skills?
     
    Last edited: Oct 17, 2009
  13. unoriginal

    unoriginal In the Starting Line-Up

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2006
    Messages:
    3,269
    Likes Received:
    78
    Ratings:
    +231 / 3 / -1

    But... but... we pay his salary!
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page

unset ($sidebar_block_show); ?>