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    Great read... I remember hearing BB rhapsodize about Moss in the past, but I always figured, "nah. smokescreen." Sure does look different in retrospect.

    Kind of funny how we just assume that, so if they want, they can be absolutely straightforward and hide in plain sight...

    PFnV
     
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    Good find!

    Q: From a talent standpoint, how difficult is it to prepare for a guy like Moss?

    BB: He's one of the best receivers in the league. There is no question about that. He has all the skills. He is a tall guy. For a tall receiver, he's got exceptional quickness, and lateral quickness. He changes direction very well. He can explode out of his cuts, which you usually see more of that from shorter receivers, guys that have a lower center of gravity, that are closer to the ground. But he can really bend his knees, bend his ankles, keep his weight low, and then explode out of those cuts on slant routes, in-cuts, comebacks. He's very good at stop-and-go routes, which again is unusual for player of his size, where he can go, stop and then go again and then accelerate and beat the defender on the second part of the route. [He has] excellent hands. [He] can catch the ball away from his body and extend. He is not a body catcher at all. He has great timing on the deep balls, so he can jump high and go up and take the ball at the high point. A lot of receivers that are shorter sometimes can out-jump or just out-time the jump with the defender and get the ball. Moss has a combination of height, long arms, and good timing and jumping ability and excellent hands to go up and get the ball. He's good after the catch. He's very fast. He can get the ball on a lot of under routes and crossing patterns and things like that and outrun linebackers and safeties and pick up extra yards down the sideline. This is a very talented player. He doesn't really have any real weakness and his game, man, zone, deep routes, short routes, catching the ball, run after the catch. [He is] a smart guy. [He] can get off the jam. He's very quick on the line of scrimmage. He is a hard guy to jam and hold up. He's pretty good.

    Q: Is he different from Terrell Owens?

    BB: I would say yes. Owens is a bigger, more physical, probably a little stronger after the catch. He doesn't have Moss' vertical speed. I don't know does. There's not many players in the league to have Moss' vertical speed. A little different skill set, but in their own way, both are certainly in the top four or five receivers in the league.

    Q: Before he came in the league was there any player who would replicate all those skills you named?

    BB: I don't think I could think of a guy right off the top of my head. [Lynn] Swann had those kind of ball skills and that kind of jumping ability. But, he didn't have anywhere close to Moss' speed.... He's pretty unique. What's really unique is his height and then the quickness that he has, with as tall and angular as he is, the quickness and explosion that he has on his cuts and then the ball skills would go with it. If you can win with speed, and you can win with quickness and you can win with hands, even though the guy is on him, he can still stretch, reach out and catch the ball even though the defender is draped all over him. That's a pretty good combination of skills.

    Q: Could Moss play for you?

    BB: Why not?
     
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    i never believed BB lies/exagerrates whathe says about players. If he didnt feel the way about some players why would he take him to applaud who they are. If he didnt feel that way..he wouldnt say anything. I believe when BB says: Moss is the best..when he said Ernie Sims would of fit somewhere in the middle of a 3-4 despite size..when he praises TO..and other players.
     
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    So who has been saying he can't run routes, that all he has is go-route ability?
     
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    I remember that press conference. Thought about it the other day when the trade went down and how much BB gushed over Moss.
     
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    Good times these days are.

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    I want Rick Reilly (or whoever the assclown's name is) 2 wear a few eggs on his face...
     
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    Me too -- see sig! Thanks for tracking it down. :)
     
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    Bill is a genius, somewhere in the recesses of his brain he had a plan.. waited for the opportunity and then grabbed it. All Moss would have to do to be convinced to come here is listen to this interview. He speaks about Moss the same way he speaks about guys like Jason Taylor, Urlacher etc. Not sure I have ever heard him utter a harsh word about any player in the NFL, pretty good stategy; do not give the other team any bulletin board material or make them feel reluctant about joining this team.
     
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    What, Bill Bellichick said Randy Moss could play for him, all the way back in 1995? I thought Shaunessy and Felger said that he always claimed the moral high ground and that this is a new approach. :)
     
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    Finally an article where BB speaks his mind about a player. :rocker:
     
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    2005. Moss was a Marshall freshman in 1995 I think!
     
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    Talking about this on WEEI right now!
     
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    I like this quote even better when BB responds to the issue of Moss taking plays off. Came back to that with the response that even LT didn't go full tilt on all his plays. (That's Lawrence Taylor folks, not the self-proclaimed "classy" guy from SD).

    "Q: How about him not competing?

    BB: I think Randy Moss is a good competitor. I think he's really good. There are times when he isn't going full speed. He probably knows that there's no chance that he would get the ball on that play, not based on the route or the play, based on the way that the coverage has deployed itself and therefore where the quarterback is going to be going with the ball.

    Q: Do your receivers ever do things like that?

    BB: I think there are a lot of players who do that. Lawrence Taylor. Lawrence Taylor was a great player. Every play wasn't his top effort and he was a high-effort player. I'm not saying that. But, Lawrence Taylor knew what the plays were in the game. He knew on third-and-eight in the fourth quarter was a lot different than first-and-10 in the second quarter. And it was. One of Lawrence's greatest strengths was his biggest plays came in the most critical times in the game. Those were the plays that if you were playing against him, you better be ready for him because of that's...short yardage, goal line, third down, key plays in the game. Were all sitting in there watching the game and you just kind of know, 'Okay, this is a big play in the game coming up. This situation.' That's where Taylor would be at his best. You could find plenty of plays on second-and-three in the second quarter that didn't look like that. You could find that with probably a lot of other players too. "
     
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    hey mbtky....were they talking about the post lol or the press conference
     
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    20 months ago...hope his tank is still full...but at least he didn't get a lot of wear and tear over the last two seasons...
     
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    Well, I may betray some Xs and Os ignorance here, but this article raises something in my mind that I've always wondered about Moss. I would think he would be virtually unstoppable in short yardage situations. People tend not to think of him as a possession receiver, but you have to play off of him. If you establish a couple of long balls to him early in the game, I would think he would be available for 6 or 7 yards all game long, and that he would break some of those.

    Nobody thinks about Moss as a dink and dunk kind of player, and maybe the percentages are such that you can't do it all game long, but on a big 3d and 4 late in the game, I would think it would be there all game long.
     
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    Thanks! It is quite amazing to see how BB goes in-depth in his explanation of the nuances of the game and situation, which to many ordinary fans like me, is spell bounding.
     
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    Great dig up. Enjoyed it immensely. What I don't get after reading a piece like that is how these media guys don't worship the ground BB walks on. Noone explains X's and O's better in an interview. They could learn so much about the game of football if they just listened what he had to say and stopped looking for a juicy gossip articles all the time. Take him for what he's worth. A damn fine Hall of Fame football coach and family man.
     

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