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  1. BradyManny

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    Belichick on the Big Show

    Go about 9 minutes in, 9:30 specifically, Belichick praises Moss pretty effusively. Said he was the most dominant player and the reason they were able to move the ball so much.

    A lot of fans and mediots were wondering why Moss stats were so low, Felger for instance, but Belichick's praise of Moss in the Jets game is about as emphatic as I've ever seen him give a player. Definitely worth a listen.
     
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    I argue about this exact point every home game with the Madden loving "just throw it up to Randy" crowd. They say if you don't use Randy why even have him on the team? What?! Someone sitting next to me this last home game, whom I won't mention by name because of the idiocy of his comment, said after Moss caught the last second TD and I quote "It's about time Moss did something today!" What?!

    Thanks for the link.

    Here's one for you:

    http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/Commentary/Columns/2008/arkush111408.htm

     
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    its becasue its been beat down on cassel to keep the ball safe and not take risks. brady has a free pass to make throws in double coverage or even less % throws because his is TOM BRADY. Cassel's first job is not to throw INT and i have to say he has done that to a T most of the time without forcing the ball to moss.
     
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    IMHO, Randy Moss is a real football player. He cares about the team and winning first. Any contribution he can make towards a win, he is willing to make. For just about every play, he was double teamed, giving single coverage to Gafney and Watson. He is the offensive version of Big Vince:D
     
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    It's true, the stats lie. We all saw Moss blowing by Ahmad Carrol late in the third quarter when Cassel overthrew him. It's beyond me why Carrol was lining up with Moss on that play. Moss has done this almost every game where he busts loose in the secondary and Cassel just misses him deep. Brady had this problem early in career miss firing on deep passes, Cassel will clean that up soon.
     
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    When it comes to BB I care more about what he does (ie who he plays) than what he says. In this case when you combine his comments with the fact that Moss plays more plays than anyone on the team it spells out his thoughts on Moss very clearly.

    Felger is going to play up any negative thought he can about Moss - he is still trying to be right about his reaction to the trade.

    The national press will do the same - Randy has a reputation and he isn't going to live it down.

    The thing that surprised me is the vocal group of posters on this board who agree that Moss has been dogging it this year.
     
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    There is a difference between saying Moss is dogging it, which he is not, and questioning why he has failed to make the kind of plays on certain throws AS HE DID LAST NIGHT. I understand why he isn't being thrown to, unlike those here who incessantly demand Josh order Cassel to challenge the double team...or alter the sets and routes and game plans to feature Moss because he's Moss... But when he is singled and the kid gets the ball to him or within inches of him, he's gotta make that tough play more often than he has becasue Cassel isn't Brady. The catch Thursday night was a thing of beauty. Had he made 2-3 more of those for his QB this season we'd possibly be alone in first even with everyone elses drops and gaffs and penalties and blown coverages.

    BTW Bill did acknowledge he tripped while lauding him for getting open.
     
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    Belichick is such an interesting guy. It would be wicked pissah if David Halberstam wrote a sequel to "The Education of a Coach" that covered all the internals of BB's coaching seasons with the Pats. I would be shocked surprised if this happened.
     
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    I agree it would be wonderful, but it won't happen because David Halberstam is dead.
     
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    For the most part I can't stand to listen to this show (If they cut the number of participants to 2 or 3, you might be able to hear all them all, though they are definitely not all equally ear-worthy).

    I do love it when BB participates because I learn something every time. His explanation of why Moss is so valuable to this offense should shut some of the Felgerians up, if not MF himself (since if he shut up, he'd be out of a job.)

    As far as weei is concerned, give me Dale and Holley, especially when Dale is on vacation.
     
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    Excellent post. I am SO tired of ppl dogging Moss.
    They should read how BB sees it.
     
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    Shhhhhhh, so's PWP, but he hasn't quit yet and we try to encourage him and not rub it in.
     
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    the haters are disappointed that their prediction that moss will cause trouble hasn't come true
     
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    Who knew???

    Maybe, just maybe, that's why I said, "I would be shocked surprised if this happened." :eek:

    Like WICKED shocked & surprised, ya think?

    Yes, I AM a bad person. :cool:

    Bored 'cause no Pats game this Sunday.
     
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    Guess it could be ghost written...:rolleyes:
     
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    It sucks that there are people in the media that is always quick to throw Moss under the bus without knowing the circumstances. Nice to see Belly give Moss the public shout out. I think he understands the psyche of Moss and wanted to give some positive reinforcements just in case Moss gets pissed by all the negative stuff the media has printed or talked about him. Belly and the Pats organization has to be commended for the way they've handled players with strong personalities (Dillon, now Moss). They protect them publicly and from the way they play/played, kept them motivated.

    The Red Sox could get some lessons from them (hint, Manny scenario).
     
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    Good posts re RM and the things he does that I dont see 'cause I cant make it to the game....this type of insight is much appreciated...and in a year or two...i'll give you a first-hand report myself!
     
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    Moss was marching up the sidelines, trying to pump up the team when they were way down in the first half. It was awesome to see.
     
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    Agree with the first point whole-heartedly. Doubt if there is a single player that BB has dissed in public and so I would rather go by how BB uses the player on the field and not by what he says about him in public.

    Disagree with the second point. Felger's analysis (I am going by the link that SVN had posted) has been even handed IMO.

    Wonder if anyone asked BB about Felger's points on how the Jets effectively covered Moss using a player - albeit a veteran who has played with the Jets before - playing his first game this season.
     
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