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  1. reflexblue

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    Doesn't sound like BB and Caserio regret passing on Matthews. Not that they would really say what they felt in a press conference.

    Belichick, Caserio discuss Packers LB Matthews - Extra Points - Boston.com

    "Clay's a good football player. When you look at that USC defense, they had a lot of good players. I think the Packers are happy they have Matthews, and we're happy with the players that we have on our team."
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    I wish Caserio hadn't put it that way -- that kind of faint praise is locker room material for Matthews.
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    I don't think that means anything.

    Have you ever heard BB badmouth one of his own players? He'd pretty much have to badmouth Brace/Butler to say anything else.
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    The Packers are fighting for their playoff lives in the NFC North. We're 11-2 and the best team in the NFL right now. Did you think that Matthews wasn't going to play hard anyway?
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    I still wish we had taken Matthew's if I'm honest, he would have been perfect in the 3-4 last year with TBC on the other side (10.0 sacks, I think?). If we have the option of taking a top pass rusher I HOPE BB doesn't trade the pick away for picks.
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    Yep, Clay Matthews is pissed. Might as well forget the game and sit by the fireplace with some hot chocolate instead.
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    Totally not enough to interpret, unless you're Rex Ryan.
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    Belichick makes it a policy of carefully overpraising the opposition. Part of his relentless attention to detail. Probably seldom matters, but you never know when a particular player might have something going on in their life that is distracting them. Insults, accidental or otherwise, can have a focusing effect. Caserio's remark is uncharacteristic of the way Belichick coaches press interactions.
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    If you took what Belichick said in press conferences about other teams, you would think he regrets passing on a lot of great and a lot of not so great and downright mediocre players. The only player I have never seen him speak less than glowing about is Freddy Mitchell.

    Belichick may have regretted passing on him or he may not. The last place you can really get evidence either way is one of his press conferences.
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    He wouldn't have fit in our 2 gap. Knock on him in college was his zone coverage skills, which our system requires- he had a tendency to overpursue which is good for the Packers 1 gap, but not for us.
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    No kidding. I think it should be required before you post on Patsfans.com that you think "BB is scared of the other team" or "regrets not drafting" or "wants to trade for" etc. You watch BB's presser in 2007 leading up to our second meeting with the Dolphins. You would think that the Dolphins were full of all-pro talent and were undefeated.
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    All I see here is the standard BB mantra, "don't throw our guys under the bus"....
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    OK, we didn't/still don't get to see very many USC games over here, really only times are bowl games and since they're not in them for the next couple of years, we won't.
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    Sorry, didn't know you were actually in Scotland. Nice country, though. You need to convince Sean to come back to the big screen!
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    S Anthony Smith... who coincidentally enough plays for the Packers now.
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    I think the knock on him in college was that he didn;t play that much until his senior season. But when he did play, he was very good and he did play in coverage a little. He wasn't very good, but he was better than Cunningham is now in coverage.

    Between not enough film and Mathews perceived inability to set a hard edge in the running game is why I think BB passed on him.

    Would I rather have Mathews instead of TBC or Cunningham, for sure, but not if it costs us all the other players that BB got in the trade with Green Bay. That draft day trade worked out well for both teams, I think it just appears that Green Bay has a bad habit of fleecing BB on draft day.
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    It is interesting, one of the picks they got back from Green Bay was traded to Jacksonville for a 2nd this year. If you follow all those picks through trades, it ended up being:

    Clay Matthews (GB)
    Jamon Merideth (GB, later cut and played for Det, Buf and NYG)
    Lamarr Houston (Oak)
    Travis Goethel (Oak)

    for

    Darius Butler
    Brandon Tate
    Julian Edelman
    Rob Gronkowski

    Probably not as cut-and-dry, although Matthews is the best player in the lot.
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    Think you should've said "but BB probably will trade the pick away for more"
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    Months and months ago you knew it was inevitable that the first thing the local media would want to talk about when the Packers played the Pats this year was Clay Matthews, and revisiting that draft.


    Curran: Pats missed the boat on Clay Matthews | CSNNE.com

    Boston Herald - Rap Sheet: Let’s start if off with my favorite what-if game: The Patriots and Packers LB Clay Matthews…

    The Matthews trade - Extra Points - Boston Globe

    It Is What It Is | The Big Nickel: The Clay Matthews Debate, a penalty watch preview and Louis Leonard's Arrival
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    Your right i took it on face value without thinking much about. A press conference would be the Last place to get any real information.
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