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  1. AzPatsFan

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    I will make a guess that the Defense will be statistically much better this year. Not just from improved play though.

    No one seems to note amidst all the scoring from the Offense, that the Time of Possession was lopsidedly in favor of the other team. The Defense spent almost 32 minutes per game on the field. Belichick can't and won't let that continue.

    I suggest that Belichick is going to remedy that weakness, and will automatically make the Defense look better, since it will just spend less time on the field.

    What has Belichick done, that like Kremlinologists reading positions on the Dais for Communist bigwigs, can we predict from what is going on? We do know we must do that, since Belichick is as close-mouthed as any in the Kremlin ever were, to true intentions. He prefers to just spring his innovations and even then, make the opposing Coaches figure out what he is doing.

    1) Belichick signed 3 FB types to compete at RB. He seldom has had any.
    Except that Cory Dillon and Antowain Smith were near FB sized RBs.

    2) Belichick drafted and signed several very Big OL the past few years. Seabass, Nate, and Marcus, as well as Connelly are much bigger than their predecessors were.

    3) Even the OL reserves like Gallery are much bigger. I suspect this portends a much more ground oriented Offense that scores, but takes more time off the clock while doing so. Historically, the Pats linemen were good sized but more oriented to agility and movement, than sheer size. Now Dante has both.:D

    4) Belichick is loading up on Good size RBs. The RBC has a bias to bigger backs now. Really only Woody is a small change-of-pace back now.

    5) Now unlike before, all the RBs can catch, so they will likely be on the field even longer.

    6) Belichick saw and can anticipate that Brady's long passing accuracy, the weakest par to his game all along, is fading as he ages. This is sometimes diagnosed as lack of a deep WR, but that is only a portion of the perceived problem.:(

    7) Belichick has loaded up on accomplished [older], deep
    WRs, to alleviate one side of that perceived problem. OTOH, a "ground and pound" running game makes the deep opportunities for it, less necessary too.:eek:

    So even if the Defense is no better than before, which I doubt, it will spend 10-20% less time on the field, so it can't but help produce better stats.:)

    What say you?:confused:
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    I agree to a point. I think the Defense will be improved in itself with the addition of Hightower at LB and later on by Jones at DE. The addition of a full TC for last year's rookies and some veteran FA's on D will also improve that unit.

    Whatever the rookies Bequette, Wilson and Dennard can add will be gravy.

    It will be an exciting season to see this version of the Patriots gel and become cohesive down the stretch.

    Stay Healthy !
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    Difficult to discount an "efficient" offense, and just because we seem to have "big" backs does not mean all that much. BJGE was a bigger back, and was sure handed. We also have the best QB in the league, with more weapons.

    OTOH we also have changed a lot of the players on Defense, whether they are "playmakers" remains to be seen.. also the D backfield, on paper, seems to have been upgraded...

    Do not really care how long our D is on the field in any one game, as long as we score more points than the other team.. that is all that is important.
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    You're suggesting Brady isn't infallible?

    You're suggesting Brady isn't destined to play the quarterback position flawlessly for the next thousand years?

    On this board?

    Jets fan. :bricks:
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    Of course, that is the most important measure...
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    It looks like you drew a conclusion then searched for some evidence to fill in.
    I don't really see any of the points you made as convincing.
    It seems to me that BB recognizes he has the GOAT QB and intends to put as much of the impact on winning as possible in his hands.
    I also think he could care less about statistical rankings.
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    Makes sense to me. If they run the damn ball from nine on in the fourth...maybe Welker never had to make that catch...

    A dominant run game would make this already dominant offense one hell of a juggernaut. I would love to see more if Ridley this year. The kid is down right explosive. When was the last time we had a back that was a legitimate threat to go the distance every carry? if he can graduate from whatever fumblitis (I wouldn't say he has a problem, but given BB has been spoiled watching law firm, it makes sense he would go that much more ballistic when a fumble does occur) class faulk had to attend, he will be a monster. Add long as the oline status healthy this year, this offense is going to tear up the league. The only question will be if the d can carry their own weight so the pats can cover the spread each week...
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    That seems a bit short-sighted.

    Having our defense on the field longer exposes players to more snaps, more wear and tear, and more injury risk. It gives opposing offenses more time to counter. Relying on an explosive offense to bail the defense out over and over again isn't particularly wise strategy, as it may eventually bite us in the *ss.

    The Pats ranked 27th in TOP in 2011, at 28:32. The next worst TOP among playoff teams was the Giants, who ranked 19th at 29:58, and who barely made the playoffs at 9-7. Most playoff teams had markedly better TOP - Green Bay (11, 30:28), Baltimore (10, 30:47), San Francisco (6, 31:31), New Orleans (3, 32:00), Houston (2, 32:17) and Pittsburgh (1, 32:28).

    The 2010 team finished 20th in TOP at 29:43. But prior to that, the 2009 team finished 3rd at 32:45, the 2008 team 2nd at 32:25, and the 2007 team 2nd at 32:27.

    Points are obviously more important than stats, but BB is a known statistical junkie, and I'm sure he pays attention. I suspect that addressing the TOP is something that will come up for 2012. Having the ability to run the ball when up and have more sustained drives down the stretch would be nice. However, putting all of the burden on the offense for the poor TOP seems a bit one-sided. The defenses contributed to its own increased TOP by being so damn lousy at getting opposing offenses off the field on 3rd down the last 2 years, and that is probably as much a factor as anything the offense did.
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    This TOP stat has been mentioned around here very little but it is an important one that we must improve on. The O wasn't flawless at managing the clock but IMO the defense is the main culprit.

    I do think we will see more of a power O this year though. It appears we will keep 3 TE's this year and we have brought in a lot of competition at FB. If we keep a FB and 3 TEs that would certainly be a shift in personnel from last year.
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    If the damned offense wouldn't score so fast and often, the defense wouldn't have to be on the field so often ! Unfortunately, that didn't include the Super Bowl.

    I agree, the defense should be better, with the addition of the draft picks and returning defensive players who missed most of the season.
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    In my mind this defense will be improved if they have more success on 3rd down. BB will always have a bend but don't break defense. But ideally BB needs the defense to make more plays at critical times.

    And to that end, BB has spent considerable resources this offseason toward that singular goal. Specifically, I think our defense has more speed than last year, more depth than last year and should have another playmaker with the addition of Hightower.

    One other note on BB adding Fullbacks to his offense in the offseason. I think he has done this primarily because his stable of RB's is very young.

    What he learned last year is that Ridley is much better when being tackled by guys with numbers 59 and below and he coughs up the football when tackled by guys with jersey numbers 60 and above. With the FB be cleaning up the first open tackler inside the tackles it will allow Ridley to get to the second level. If you go back and watch the Dallas games from last year Fiammetta was opening huge holes for Murrray and once Fiammetta got hurt, Murray became much less productive

    And let's face the facts, Ridley, Vereen and Woodhead all stink at blitz pickup. Fiammetta, while much better than Ridley, Vereen and Woodhead is still not the best at blitz pickup, however Larsen does a pretty good job of it, although it is hard to see on tape because Tebow is a scrambler.

    The goal of adding the FB to this offense is to get the defense to put 7 in the box and make it easier for Brady to pick apart the defense in the passing game.
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    TOP is a function of the offensive drives.

    Look as some of the scoring drives and the actual minutes of the drive. Hurry up does hurry things up.

    Look at the Washington game. 34 points/450+ yards of offense and....like 22 minutes TOP.

    Changes in ground game personnel are most likely will be directed toward better short yardage execution.
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    I will say that a FB goes against the theme of offensive unpredictablitiy (run vs pass) and therefore I don't expect it to be a big part of the game plan. We could end up keeping no FB and just using an OL in short yardage situations.
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    If the defense finds the ability to make stops earlier in drives, the TOP issue will go away.
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    I think you are missing the point. At least the one I am making.
    The OP implied that BB would make changes in order to improve the time of possession statistic. He will make changes to improve how his team plays, and the result may be to improve the TOP statistic, but he is not going to alter his offense to score less and eat more time.
    TOP is a 2 sided coin. If you are an efficient offense that scores a lot of points, runs a hurryup offense, and makes its yards in the passing game, you will not generally have a high time of possession number, and that doesn't make that statistic a bad one.
    There is an abandoment of cause and effect relationship recognition in this thread.
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    A work of beauty, this post.
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    Yeah....I guess it's safe to assume the Douche and Andy Johnson are not the same person or identical twins.
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    Yes, you're right. I have no disagreement with this post.

    I expect the offense will continue to do a prioritize a lot of things more than TOP. I would like to see more sustained drives when we're up, as opposed to Brady going pass happy and turn the ball over a lot (as in the 1st Buffalo game). But in general, I agree with Ochmed - if the D can do a better job on 3rd down then the TOP issue will largely be resolved.
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    ..So you're saying he cares? ;)
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    The defense will be statistically better, because they don't really have anywhere but up to go!:bricks:
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