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Patriots need to work on offense during bye week - Patriots - Boston.com
I agree with his general thought here, since this team will likely go as far as the offense takes them, not to mention the fact that side of the ball is certainly our bread and butter. If the offense comes up flat and puts out another 20 point or less performance, it would most likely equal the end of the season, even with the better play of the defense lately.
In the past playoff failures we've seen the offense shut down due to other teams catching us off guard with pressuring Brady + taking away our best receiving options. That isn't even bringing up the struggles that we've had in being able to run the ball either, which would have been very efficient vs the NYJ in the 2010 season due to the fact that they kind of dared us to do it..
Hopefully the addition of Llyod as another viable candidate and the balance that can be provided by the running game will be enough to overcome any obstacles like that this season.
I can't even begin to express my appreciation that Gronk was able to come back for the playoffs, as I think we were getting to be rather limited in our options at times, which also led to more pressure, sacks, and mistakes by Brady too. A healthy Gronk = a whole different ballgame...
I think the distinction Bedard makes between production and execution is a very good one, and I give him full credit for making that separation. With that in mind, no offense is perfect in its execution. Points get left on the board. If the Pats executed flawlessly they'd probably be averaging 50 PPG and would have put up 800 points this season. It's not going to happen. The team led the NFL in 3rd down conversions and in red zone TD %, 2 very important measures of efficiency and execution, so while they may not execute ideally, they are probably still ahead of the rest of the league.
Do they need to work on execution? Probably. But don't expect perfection. It's not realistic.
Again, a legitimate stud, outside the hashes WR on the other side of Lloyd can solve alot of potential issues. Hopefully this gets addressed in the offseason and it doesn't burn us in the coming weeks.
In retrospect, I think the level of expectations for what Brandon Lloyd would bring to the table was a bit high. I mean, there's a reason he bounced around the league for a while before catching on in Denver, and that was only one truly good season.
I was hoping that the Tom Brady Effect would push him to another level -- and he did set a career high in catch rate -- but playing in the Pats offense can't change a player's basic skill-set.
Lloyd is who he is -- a receiver with unexceptional speed, adequate height and size and inconsistent route-running, but extraordinary body control and target radius, who makes his living making amazing, toe-tapping catches by the sideline -- and, maddeningly, dropping too many of the easy ones. In many of the cases Bedard points to, Lloyd bends his route toward the sideline because that's how he compensates for not consistently being able to get separation.
Still, the Pats have in Lloyd the conventional, if unexceptional, split end they were looking for. I think with the injuries to Hernandez and Gronk, not to mention Edelman, opposing CBs haven't had to give Lloyd much of a cushion, so he hasn't been able to get the easier 10-yard come-backs and curls he might have otherwise. Hopefully this will change if we've got both AH and Gronk healthy in the post-season. (Fingers crossed.)
Another great effort by Beddard. But 2 quick nitpicks.
1. He failed to mention that part of Lloyd's problems that night could have been attributed to the fact that HE'S not at 100% right now and is another guy who is really going to benefit from this bye week.
2. I'll take his word that the 2 back up TE's didn't block as well as in previous games, but he's wrong in saying Hooman missed the block on the one Miami sack. He's NOT wrong in saying it was Hooman's responsibility, because it was. But Hooman didn't whiff on the block, he just never saw the blitz coming. It came from such a wide position, while Hooman was available to block the blitzer, he never saw him. Hey I said it was a nitpick right up front.
Agreed. That's what I was thinking as I read it. I think the same can be said for Hernandez. I have to think he aggravated his ankle a couple of weeks ago.
Nice read from Field Yates on the Pats' "self scouting" and work on execution:
2013 NFL playoffs -- New England Patriots' primary concern is themselves - ESPN Boston
Maybe most of the better teams could say it, but I agree with the title of Yates piece. This is an offense that is tough to beat when healthy unless they beat themselves via lack of consistent execution or focus. Yes they look great on paper, and yes you want to attack. But you want to be confident that those you attack with are up to the task because if they aren't they begin to dig that foxhole out of which the rest have to attempt to climb out of. This offense needs to start strong, stay strong and finish strong. Haven't seen that trifecta much this season. Doesn't mean they have to score on every possession. But they have to move the ball and control field position and score when in the red zone and not lose out on TOP. Can't afford one of their patented slow starts or one of their all too maddening stalls that allow opponents to hang around and hope. And if they manage to do that they potentially have an ever greater task facing them next week in doing it again probably as a road team. Times up for working on things. We are in one and done territory now so you best be fielding your best 11-13 from an execution based, whatever it takes to win mentality position. You can manipulate matchups til the cows come home but they won't be favorable unless your guys execute. At this level it quickly comes down to mano a mano battles where either superior talent or unequaled effort carries the day.
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