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Bedard: How the Redskins Beat the Giants TWICE this Season

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    Bedard is the man.
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    How to make a trip to Mobile pay off. Bedard gets it while so many of his peers are chasing their tails looking for easy filler this week.
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    I am about to read it and I hope he adds the bunch of drops by the Giants WRs as well.
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    Blueprint!!

    Great read, pretty interesting. And I had forgotten Sergio Brown was in the game until I watched the NFL Replay the other night and saw him doing that nice PI in the End Zone. Also, Tracy White was the person covering 85 (his name escapes me) who scored the game winning TD, but wasn't it White's first play of the game? I've noticed White on the field sometimes and he looks better. As long as we don't need to rely on him (or Sergio Brown...Dear God No) for long stretches I think things will go better this game.
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    I wished he talked about the Giants 27th ranked defense and how the Patriots can exploit it, especially the secondary. Obviously we all know the DL is very good at pass rushing. Are they also good vs the run? Why did they give up so many yards/points this year? Was it all b/c of injuries???
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    Reading the article makes me wonder how much of those 2 games were watched by the Pats this week.
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    For what its worth, a couple little things on how to beat the Giants.

    1. Have the CBs play a little more aggressively.. look for the ball and play for the pick...

    ...especially if we find we are just trading touchdowns and aren't stopping the passing game. I really feel like this game is going to come down to a turnover margin for either team.

    2. Cover the check-down. Cover the check-down.

    3. Send the Wilfork into late surprise cover (the check-down). :)

    4. Intercept those damn I'm under pressure, I'm going to close my eyes and frantically throw up the ball throws by Manning.

    5. Don't drop potential interceptions!

    6. Win it for Myra!
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    Broken down, disssected, picked out all the useful bits, and adapted to the Patriots personnel and how BB thinks they'll come after the Patriots.
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    Jake Ballard. 2nd year TE. UDFA.
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    In week 9 we already were taking cues from the first Giants-Redskins game, using plenty of play-actions, not so much to freeze the Giants secondary, but to force them into a read and react form of defense.
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    FWIW I remember seeing this a while back:

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    Sounds like keeping Cruz and Nicks from hurting you deep is not letting Manning get out of the pocket. So lane discipline is a high priority.

    Pats can run on the Gaints also, some no huddle to wear down the Giants rushers.
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    I also forgot we lost Chung and Spikes in that game, that alone will help the D.
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    The Giants are only allowing 5.3 yards per attempt over their last three games, which would make them the #2 pass defense in the NFL. For comparison, the Ravens allowed 5.6 over their last three games.

    They aren't good against the run. In fact, they're allowing 5.0 yards per carry, which is horrible. Establishing a running game will be key in the Super Bowl. The Patriots have a far better run defense.
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    7. If you have the option of kicking a long field goal on 4th and long and you don't think your kicker can make it (even though you're in a dome), punt the ball.
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    A balanced offsensive attack will be key against the Giants. We need to run to develop play action. If Brady goes back to pass 40+ times we're dead. I do like the thought of keeping Manning in the pocket. he can get flustered with inside pressure and that's when he makes his mistakes. We need to remember the Giants lost 7 games this year. 7 !!!!!!!!! They're hardly unbeatable.
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    If the Pats pass more than they run in this game, BOB should be fired by Penn State before he even gets one game in over there.

    The ring is there for the Pats' taking if they commit to the run. They are playing Russian Roulette if they plan on dropping Brady back 35+ times against the four sprinters on their line.
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    I believe passing the rock is our bread and butter. I think the key is to make sure we do not get into long 3rd downs. I also believe that we need to keep them honest with a few runs mixed in. Just like what Belichick would do , we do not want to be one dimensional. This is what we always want to do against good defenses ..... it all comes down to execution...and nothing else.....

    easier said than done...

    Take no prisoners......
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    There will never be a game we run more than pass without 40mph sustained winds or a 30+ point lead. Ideally, I'm looking for 55% pass 45% run at worst. Giants can be run on, but expecting a PASS FIRST team to run the ball more is just silly.

    We will run far more than SB42, count on that, but BOB will not call more run plays than pass. If he does that with TB, WW, AH, and RG, THEN he should be fired upon arrival.
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    I agree. You have to figure BJGE is the main guy and I see Faulk playing a major role as well as Woodhead. There is no way Ridley plays IMO.

    They're pass rushers are relatively light in Tuck, JPP, and Osi but they are superquick on backside pursuit. I feel like everyone else if they commit to the run they can wear those guys down. You gotta figure even the strongest light guys get worn down by being leaned on continuously.

    You gotta figure Polite is gonna be a factor. I'll have to research when he was picked up, if he was picked up right after week 9 for a game like this not that they would know they would be playing the giants.

    If the giants wants to put all 3 pass rushers with Canty on the field the Pats need to go no huddle not so much for speed but to trap them on the field with the tightends to wear them down. let them rush alll they want, just got to block with great technique.

    Brady should not be in the shotgun with the empty set.
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    Nicks is really good but I think the guy to double is Cruz. he ate up the niners with something like 10 catches in the first half but the niners made an adjustment and had so many opportunities to intercept Eli but collided with their own teammates.

    McCourty needs to be the 2nd safety. you need these guys to play over the top for help. I can just see Nicks getting behind Arrington. I can see Cruz doing a slant.

    Do you jam Cruz?

    Mark Anderson has played great but he and Ninko can't overpursue and flush Eli from the pocket. This is gonna be a big game for Deadrick, Wilfork, and Love coollapsing the pocket. If the two outside guys can contain the interior guys can do their job just like in the Baltimore game.
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    Polite was picked up before the Bills game, after Brady hurt his shoulder doing one too many sneaks against the Fish. Not that that has stopped him, the QB sneak is one of the most unstoppable plays for short yardage in the NFL, especially when you have a QB who is willing to take the hits on 2nd and 1.
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    I figure this is a big game for Hernandez lined up in the backfield whether it be shotgun or under the center.
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    Perry Fewell doesn't exactly strike me as a defensive mastermind. I hope Josh and BOB have some big surprises for him.
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    Pats need to study up on those two games. There may be something the Pats can do to defeat the stinkin' giants.
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    Giants were not able to stop Helu and Royster in their last meeting. THe Skins basically ran the ball down their throats and never allowed Eli to get into a rhythm.

    I like using the game plan the giants used against the bills in SB 25. The giants had the ball for something like 40 minutes that game! it's the same thing the giants did to the pats in the last super bowl. Win the time of possession battle.
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    This may not be the thread to discuss this but,...

    I think McCourty moving to safety is more a function of trying to have the best 4-5 DBs on the field. (i.e. avoid having to play Sergio Brown on defense).
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    Everyone always has the same game plan for a high flying passing attack: jam and reroute the receivers and get to the QB with 4 down lineman. The best way to beat this defense, as many have pointed out in this thread, is to run the ball into their defensive line.

    The Patriots are not a good screen team. Don't throw screens please...
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    I agree to a point. The Giants are definitely a pass defense by design. At the same time, the Pats are a passing offense, and that's where their playmakers are. I think we should run more than normal, open up the play action, and keep Eli off the field. If they do those things, it doesn't matter to me what the run/pass ratio is.

    One thing to consider. They aren't a 3-4 defense, and that will make it harder to chip the tight ends on the way to Brady... and even if they did, that would slow down their pass rush. The Ravens had success against us because they were able to do that.

    The Giants would have to come up with a more creative alignment, or use their linebackers. And frankly, their linebackers aren't even close to Baltimore's. Boley, while very good, is basically Gary Guyton on steroids, not a physical guy like Jarrett Johnson, Suggs, or Kruger. The Gmen had trouble with SF's tight ends.

    NY also don't disguise well, which spells big trouble when you're playing against Brady if he has time (which he did in week 9, contrary to popular belief).
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