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How Ravens can slow Patriots offense
puts a lot on lloyd. Felger is giddy that balitmore can win.
Why don't our media guys do articles on how the Patriots can slow the Ravens' offense? Why doesn't he analyze the Chiefs vs. Ravens game & tell us how the Chiefs held Baltimore to 9 pts.?
seems like he thinks Ravens can put 12 or 13 guys on defense
How do Ravens double team both Wes and Aaron without leaving
other options in favorable match ups.
Troy Brown: Keys to Patriots beating Ravens
- Spread out the Ravens defense, and keep up the tempo
- Fix the special teams coverage
- Get back on defense in pass coverage, especially on the right side
Curran: 'Ray Lewis is a liability in coverage right now'
- Go after Ray Lewis in pass coverage
- As opposed to what Peyton Manning did (get to the line quick and gesticulate), get to the line quick and snap the ball
- Use Shane Vereen in speed mismatches
- 188 snaps in two weeks for the Ravens defense; they could be fatigued
Hm, Bedard doesn't at all talk about moving to a 2 RB formation with Vereen and Ridley, depending on if you wanted to pass or run more.
You could pound the rock with Ridley and occasionally use him as a FB for Vereen in space. Or you could split Vereen out wide and hand off or pass and use Ridley as a pass protector in a blitz situation.
The possibilities are endless. Woodhead and Vereen at the same time would be tits if Woodhead can play, since he'd probably be the one pass blocking.
Here come the fake injuries
Hah, Pees was asked how to slow Brady. Answer:"Hire Tonya Harding."
How we can beat the Ravens....
Split Vereen out wide.
What Bedard stated was entirely accurate. That's EXACTLY what the Pats should expect to see. Hell, the Ravens HAVE to try and take Welker and Hernandez out of the game. The good news is that the Pats know this as well. They've had to play a lot of games without Gronk this season and a LOT of teams have tried to take Welker and Hernandez out of the game.
Personally I'll be excited to see how Josh will attack what the Ravens will try and do. Lloyd and the RBs will get a lot of opportunities. Also I wouldn't be surprised to see Daniel Fells and or Hooman get a few targets this week.
We've had a second TE on the field for the majority of the snaps in games Gronk and Hernandez have missed. To date, they haven't been thrown to for the most part. It wouldn't shock me to see one of the two #3 TE's have a "Shane Vareen" type game, out of the blue. Fell is a capable receiver, and the Ravens certainly wouldn't be expecting a guy who was a healthy scratch last week get any primary looks this week.
In a twist, put Hernandez in the backfield and the other 4 along the line. Baltimore wouldn't have any idea of how to cover that.
So did bedard forget about Fells? Because I thought he was pretty ok in run blocking. Or what about the possibility of them bringing in another lineman to help the running game at some points.
It's pretty hysterical how some of these media guys are acting like the Patriots have no say and it's up to the ravens. Like Brady going out and playing lights out is predicated on the ravens defense and not on Brady just going out and playing good.
I think it comes down to how much faith one has in lloyd to produce if wes and hernandez are taken out . I think thats why one can be apprehensive. He has been good but somehow one cant be sure, at least Iam not.
That San Francisco and the first Baltimore game should give optimism. He needs to play like that on Sunday.
The offense just put up 41 on a superior Texan defense.
The Ravens are not going to take out Wes or Ahern.
I am even more certain of this than a Patriots victory
And I'm fairly confident of that.
(Errr....I better just stfu now.)
Dont know about superior. Maybe more faster younger players but scheme was same all game. Ravens know how to disguise coverages and not give QB's early reads.
Yes.But its in inconsistency which makes one anxious.
if they can get to brady and hit/sack him a good amount....pats will struggle....Oline needs to do it's job big time sunday. I think he will have plenty of time
I wonder how much the Harbaugh brothers will talk? Can Jim (or John?) get information from the San Fran game that could help?
Bingo! if they get to TFB frequently (sacks or hurries), the Patriots offense will struggle. If the OL does a good job giving TFB time, the Patriots will score plenty. The Ravens can try to double WW and AH all they want (they won't be the first team to do it). It will not stop the Patriot offense. No one has stopped this offense without an effective pass rush/blitz of TFB.....
The only shot the Ravens have is to pressure Tom Brady and hit him. That's it. If they can do it consistently, then they will have a shot, otherwise the Patriots will eat their lunch.
I like the thought - been thinking to myself that we could see a 2 TD game from Hooman or Fells with half the people watching saying "who?"
Also sorry to gripe but man would it be nice to have at least Edelman out there on Sunday... Nevermind Gronkowski.
Gotta admit though, pressure comes when Tom's 1st read options are taken away. Brady is way too good at beating the blitz for it to be a really useful strategy against him. The sacks that come are when a defender totally blows through the blocking scheme (or the blocker's communication fails), and when the coverage is very good and Tom takes a sack instead of throwing the ball away (and risking the intentional grounding penalty).
if the ravens are worrying about double teaming welker and hernandez, then the pats are going to run for 250-300 yards....
there is no pressure on the pats.......this is simply going to be about the ravens picking their poison
no fancy stuff either......2 TE set with hernandez lining up wide and either ridley or vereen in the backfield.....they will be forced to put mcclain on hernandez
honestly? the best chance for the ravens would be to take ray lewis off the field and go largely with ellerby and mcclain which there is about zero chance of happening. as long as he is out there, the pats passing game should focus on isolating ray lewis.....make his retirement come one game too late
I just wanted to add hat the patriots offensive line is fully healthy for the first time going into the playoffs. Lastbuear we had mankind playing on a torn acl and the other ol positions were a mess
Name any other offense of the past ten years where you could take a player of Gronk's excellence off the field and still be talking about this level of domination.
What would we be talking about if he weren't hurt?
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