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    BBC admits: We are biased on religion and politics


    Internal corporation memo on ‘impartiality’ summit leaked to British media exposes truth on BBC bias

    Hagit Klaiman Published: 10.23.06, 16:10

    LONDON – The British Broadcasting Corporation has been struggling for several years against criticisms and claims of biased reporting concerning the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and distorted coverage of the global fight against terror.


    Following a diplomatic incident with Israel, the BBC appointed an editor known for his objective reporting, however, the true stance of the corporation’s editors remained the same.

    An internal memo, recently discovered by the British media, revealed what the BBC has been trying to hide. Senior figures admitted in a recent 'impartiality' summit that the BBC was guilty of promoting Left-wing views and anti-Christian sentiment.

    Most executives admitted that the corporation’s representation of homosexuals and ethnic minorities was unbalanced and disproportionate, and that it leaned too strongly towards political correctness, the overt promotion of multiculturalism, anti-Americanism and discrimination against the countryside.

    Okay to trash Bible, not Quran

    A truly shocking revelation to come out of the summit was expected to invoke a storm in Britain, which has already reached the boiling point with regards to the treatment of Muslims and the issue of the veil.


    For the purpose of illustration, the executives were given a scenario in which Jewish Comedian Sasha Baron Cohen would participate in a program titled ‘Room 101’, a studio program where guests would be asked for their opinions on different issues, and allowed to symbolically throw things they hated in a garbage bin.

    The executives were asked what they would do if Cohen decided to throw ‘Kosher food’, the Archbishop of Canterbury, the Bible, and the Quran in the garbage bin.

    The executives said they would allow everything to be thrown in the garbage bin, save the Quran, for fear of offending the British Muslim community.


    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3318582,00.html
     
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    More honest than abcnbccbspbscnnmsnbc at least.
     
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    Some new tidbits on the BBC admission.

    Yes, we are biased on religion and politics, admit BBC executives

    22.10.06
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    BBC executives have been forced to admit what critics have known for years - that the corporation is institutionally biased.

    The revelation came after details of an 'impartiality' summit called by its chairman, Michael Grade, were leaked.

    Senior figures admitted that the BBC is guilty of promoting Left-wing views and an anti-Christian sentiment.

    They also said that as an organisation it was disproportionately over-represented by gays and ethnic minorities.

    It was also suggested that the Beeb is guilty of political correctness, the overt promotion of multiculturalism and of being anti-American and against the countryside.

    During the meeting, hosted by Sue Lawley, executives admitted they would happily broadcast the image of a Bible being thrown away - but would not do the same for the Koran.




    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/...and politics, admit BBC executives/article.do


    Should anyone with an objective mind be surprised? Do any of you think that our media doesn't do the same? This is exactly why I laugh at the sheeple who read one paper, one columnist, or watch one channel and feel informed. HA! Wake up people. The left owns the media. It's why the rest of the MSM so abhore Fox News so much. Until they came around, the leftists had a monopoly on brainwashing TV. Anyhow, watch multiple sources, read multiple papers, and know your history!
     
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    Why doesn't the BBC just admit they are intimidated...now that would really be honest of them.
     
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    Even when they admit it there are those that won't believe it.
     
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    The thing about the BBC is that it almost HAS to be biased in some ways in order to maintain credibility. If I told you it's a government-run corporation hte first thing you will think is that it puts out propaganda. Instead they have been sued by Blair's government for reporting things that made him look terrible (an internal memo concerning hte Iraq invasion and how to lie to the public about it). Also it is in a country with a state-controlled religion (the Church of England).

    On top of that, I believe that the British public are pretty much in line with the anti-religion thinking. Ask one of the British posters on here, you'll find that Christianity is almost non-existant as a political/social force in that nation. I think hte BBC is the closest we've gotten in hte corporate world to actually representing the people and should be supported. Case in point, they've admitted their own bias. Would FOX News ever do that!?
     
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    All major media struggles with objectivity. It's a difficult issue, especially because objectivity is based on national cultural values. It's no surprise how patsfan13 allowed his own bias to creep in by leaving Fox news out of his list. For him, objectivity is that which touts the Republican line. For me, I regard those media outlets criticized by both the left and right as the most objective. Right now, that list includes CNN and ABC, where for every complaint by a rightie, I can post one by a liberal.
     
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    All Fox news does is tell you the things the "Left Leaning" news won't tell you, then you can decide.

    Imagine years ago all the things we must have missed and never knew about because the old walrus Cronkite didn't want us to know.

    Thank God for the "New Fair & Balanced Media".

    Cute Perky Katie has dropped like a rock, right to the bottom of the ratings Cronkite and the Top Liberals still "don't get it".

    The People "Get It".
     
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    90+ % of the MSM print and broadcast voted for Kerry, right wing bias isn't much of an issue. The fact that Fox attempts to be balanced in their coverage is shocking to the leftist who are used to companies who tow the company (dem) line.
     
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    No one but righties regards Fox as balanced, which just shows how biased your view is. And, as I said above, liberals and leftists do not regard MSM as pro Democrat, with the exception of media outlets like the NYT, Washington Post, CBS, and the rather schizo MSNBC. You ought to try to be objective yourself when looking at these issues, but as your post shows that's not really important to you.
     
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    Tim Russert & Gregory objective?

    Mark Halperin objective?

    Ted Turner unbiased?

    HAHAHAHAHA!
     
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    The Left Wing Liberal doesn't recognize "Bias" because they can't believe anyone would disagree with them, they all think Cronkite, Turner, NY Times, Russert, Rather, Couric, etc are normal, they are the way and the truth, they know whats best for you so shut up, they believe the whole world should agree with these Socialist Hand Wringing Liberals.

    The new media is taking care of them, Rather is gone now Couric is fading into oblivion, Katie should have stuck to making potato salad out on the sidewalk with Mousy Lauer.

    We Report You Decide, Fair And Balanced.
    :bricks:
     
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    Agreed Fox's slant is right, whereas the other news agencies are slanted left which is where the balance comes in. Fox is simply balancing off the leftwing bias by being right wing biased.
     
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    Patters is trying to enlighten us on objectivity. LOL. So Patters thinks that CNN is objective. What a surprise. That isn't the same CNN that televised that Al-Queda propoganda video is it? Or was that another CNN I'm thinking of?
     
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    Fox certainly leans right. It's why they dominate versus the other outlets. The reason why libs and lefty's don't regard the MSM as leftist is because it is. They watch the news and have it reported to them just as they see it, therefore, there is no disagreement with what is being reported, hence, no objectivity. When you watch the Redsox broadcast as a Redsox fan you see no homerism. Why? Cuz you're a freakin Redsox fan! Now, if you came in from out of town and watched the game, and weren't a Sox fan, you'd probably want to piuk.
     
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    i've been saying this for a while in every forum I frequent. It is illustrated in the television ratings. If you tally Fox shows versus the shows of the left (CNN, MSNBC) you get a close to equal number. Why? Rights watch Fox, lefts watch the rest. It's why the MSM and their lefty brethren hate FOX so much. Before FOX, they could brainwash without condemnation. Once FOX showed up, that monopoly was destroyed.
     
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    Exactly, and Liberals will not tolerate that, "how dare Fox do that"
    (hee hee hee, and Fox is winning) :singing:
     
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    CNN & The NY Times Are Also America's Enemy
     
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    Excluding the editorial pages, it would be difficult to find many mainstream media outlets critical of our government or society in any way. Reporters, many of whom are 'liberal', can surely be censored by their own companies and it's naive to think this doesn't happen. The problem is that reporters don't ask questions. Consider the issue of Mexican immigrants: All reports simply take it as a given that they would want to move to US, nobody ever questions what is so bad about Mexico that a massive exodus has taken place. Average Americans won't ask this question either, and so just go on thinking 'of course they'd want to come here, who wouldn't?'

    Also, how come it never is mentioned, even at the very end of articles concerning the Iraq war, that Cheney owns stock in Halliburton?

    There is less of a media bias than a simple attempt at dumbing down the issues into democrat-republican issues, Hannity and Colmes leading the way. Stereotypes about an issue's opponents are encouraged (Limbaugh complaining about birkenstock-wearing hippies, the notion that all Republicans are also crazy-Christians, etc.) and all issues become 'us-them.' In this way we can stay divided on issues that should have been solved years ago (social model, affirmative action, abortion, gay marriage/rights of partner) and we are diverted from the REAL issues, ie how many innocents have actually been killed in Iraq due to our invasion/occupation (a non-profit study has estimated nearly 50,000!!!) or how we put tyrants into power because they do our dirty work for us, then we take them out when they realize they've been played (Hussein ain't the first...)

    The mainstream media look at as few sides as possible and give us even less to chew on. Bias isn't the word for it, business is. That's why BBC is the finest corporate news organization in the world (and NPR tries very very hard to follow its lead). As a public organization there is no profit-motive and so they can make decisions based on other criteria. Yes, it is anti-Christian but so are most of the people who pay their TV licensing fees. There's a reason why BBC is listened to everywhere in the world: it caters to all different perspectives. If you watch CNN in Beijing, they'll still be showing you a squirrel on water-skis and letting you know that Paris Hilton farted.
     
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    I'm not sure what your point was, but my view on the media goes like this....

    I feel that the MSM should not be biased. I believe, as do many, that "Freedom of the Press" obligates the media to report all things honestly. The people depend on the media to keep our government in check. When the government lies or misleads, it's up to the media to expose it. When the media begins to lie and mislead too, then the people are left to suffer. I have no qualms with shows that slant right or left, just as long as they make known their persuasion. My issue is with the news itself. When Brokaw, Rather, and Jennings are leftys and report the "news" as such, we all suffer. The BBC has an obligation to report without bias. If it has a bias then it should state so. When I pick up the paper I want to know what direction I'm being pointed in. Now, some of us are able to see through the bias, and make judgements on our own, but the majority are not. The MSM is as much to blame for the polarization that is present today. Unfortunately, it will only get worse before it gets better.
     

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