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  1. ctpatsfan77

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    Yeah, it's Karen Guregian and the Herald, but it's not the Hack, so I figure we should give them credit when it's warranted.

    James Sanders glad to be back - BostonHerald.com

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    I remember in his rookie season, #37 had a season ending injury and the next day held a "goodbye for now" press conference. He spent half the conference praising young Mr. Sanders as someone who "gets it" - - he praised no one else. Harrison is not one to throw around verbal bouquets to rookies. That was a big deal.
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    If harrison decides to hang it up (which I think he certainly will think about it)
    than Sanders might very well be a huge extension signing for the Pats

    He may be far from an elite safety but he knows the system well and that does matter in Foxboro
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    I have always liked Sanders. It's good to see he has BB's confidence.
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    I've liked Sanders, and Rodney's glowing praise of him was a real eye-opener... but he STILL seems to take bad angles from time to time leaving me with big WTF once in a while.
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    Upon their leaving the team, a former member of the scouting or personell department was quoted as saying that James Sanders was the player he was most proud of. JS had come so far from his rookie year to that point. It may have been Dimitrov but I'm not sure.
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    Nice quotes. Sanders is a nice team player and a leader. I don't see him as an ideal starting safety, but as a rotational guy who can play both SS and FS he has terrific value. He seems to have nice leadership qualities, too.
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    More leadership than Eugene Wilson ever had

    Wilson was a glorified puss on the field once Harrison went down with injuries
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    I know he gets a lot of hits here on the board, but I think Sanders has played well in his first years with the Pats. Sure he has made a few errors, but everyone does. He has consistently improved his game and leadership on D. I feel that this will be a breakout year for him.
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    I hope he steps up, because he does not seem to make many big plays and disappears for long stretches in ways that Rodney and Lawyer never did. Nevertheless, it seems clear from the FA signings that BB places far more blame for last year's big plays on the CBs than the safeties. In BB We Trust.
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    Well, we are judging by the broadcast of the game, seeing only what the cameras show us, and we have no idea where any of the players should be on any given play. BB has a full time staff to break down game film. So yeah, I guess I'll go with BB's analysis over fan reaction. Even my own. Not for Sanders, I mean, but there are times I wonder about his personnel decisions. It's just hard to put up a good argument based on a couple highlight plays (good or bad), watching NFL Live, and reading Reiss's mailbag.
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    Don't get DWToys see this thread.
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    Too late; I think he already rated it.
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    He is the worst starting player in the NFL. They are better instantly when he is not there - just look at last season. Absolute liability is the passing defense. Go watch tapes of first phins game - he almost makes me miss myron guyton. The one blackeye of this offfseason was resigning him.
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    Damn that Belichick, always signing stiffs to weaken the team!
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    That's an awfully Usenet-ish thing for you to say :p
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    I remember that as well. Not long after, Sanders became a regular on the defense. To earn praise from #37 is rare indeed.
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    Not to mention he takes AWFUL angles of pursuit. I mean really pathetic attempts at chasing down the ball carrier.
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    Some players are so good you would say its like we have 12 men out there with him on the field.

    In sanders case when hes out there its like were playing with 10 men out there, the guy is invisible.
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    I disagree completely. Would you rather your safety making 12 tackles a game? Do you honestly think that would be a good idea?

    Do you really think that if this guy WASN'T doing his job 99 plays out of a hundred that he would have been resigned?
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    I disagree. You could look at isolated plays and see mistakes that any player makes. One the whole however, Sanders doesn't make many. Just because he is not a high profile player, does not mean he does not have great value to this defense.

    Bob Sanders and Ed Reed are great players who are great playmakers. If BB had them, he would design his defense to play to their strengths. You cannot, however have 11 All-Pros on both sides of the ball in the salary cap era.
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    It's gotta be bs. According to a very classy, very well respected media guy, BB's players all hate him.

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    Man, that's a hecckuva mole! Is he going for that Aaron Neville vibe?
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    Another thread how 1 or 2 highlight plays where a RB came into the backfield after getting through the front 7 is being judged.IN 07-06 watch the game against chargers . He was juked a few times which made the highlights but our front 7 could not even touch LT and sanders was tackling him every down.He missed once and it was on nfl live so he is bad.That juke was on ESPN for a week yeah the whole game the front 7 was thrashed but do not let that cloud your judgement.

    I do not get it merriweather is out their running around making plays last year and yet people have figured out he is doing it with out the help of his is safety partner not is taking care of the safety responsibilty letting him do his thing.

    looks like pepper for seymour .seymour gets less sack so get rid of him for a OLB....but with a avg DE the OLB will be neutralized but who cares.I am suprised no one started a vince for peppers thread as vince gets what 1 or 2 sack a year compared to peppers.
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    Worst. post. ever.

    The clowns in this thread can rail on Sanders all they want. The team's (and, by extension, Belichick's) words and actions speak louder than your Amateur Hour analysis.

    The FACT is that Sanders is an above-average safety in the NFL. He is a serviceable starter and a top-flight backup/rotational player. He is probably the best tackler in the secondary and a leader on the field.

    Perhaps you ought to pay more attention. He is just as visible as the other guys in the backfield, save for Meriweather who seems to be turning into an elite safety and a playmaker.

    Some day you'll realize that the NFL =/= Madden, and it's not practical to have All-Pro's at every position. I mean, the Patriots did win a Super Bowl with Tebucky Jones playing safety.
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    Jack, Hello. How are you today? You look well. I have missed your witty repartee the last few days.

    I just wanted to let you know that everything you say on these pages are 100% correct. You have convinced me. I am now a convert on Mr. James Sanders. The guy is really neat. You are correct. Your intellectual reasoning has made me see the light. I thought I knew a little about the sport but I thank you for enlightening me on Patriots personnel. I stand by you.

    I for one, loved your Madden logical reasoning. It was astute to say the least. Let them put that in their pipes and smoke it, right?

    In the future you posters, please no more silly, uneducated remarks about Mr. Sanders or you will have to answer to me! You Amateur Hour analysis cousins will have to earn our respect here or else we shall continue making snide remarks about your comments and suppositions that you so deserve.

    Jack, you have a wonderful first day of April and we look forward to more incite. I got your back on this one now!
    Best Regards,
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    You know, Reiss does a mailbag for the Globe. Why don't you send him an email asking him to find out how the Patriots graded Sanders' play in the past couple of seasons?
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    No......... I'm good. I am a convert. JB has me convinced. I think Sanders is the bees-knees now! I am now of the thought that the hundreds of people that know more than anyone here on this forum that say that the Pats need a SS are full of hokum.

    Just because they never attempted to sign him and let him walk in FA and low balled him to come back and he actually took it is utter nonsense. If JB says he is an above average safety, it is in my best interest not to stand to be ridiculed. I have you guys backs on Mr. Sanders. You win........

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    1.) Did the team, agent or player state that the Patriots never attempted to sign Sanders and let him walk?

    2.) How do you define "lowballed"?

    3.) Most teams have how many safeties on their squad? Take that number and divide by 2. If Sanders is ranked in the higher half, he's above average.

    4.) Please explain the "hundreds of people" comment, show us where they've said what you claim they've said, preferably with context regarding Sanders, and explain how they know more than anyone here on this forum.

    5.) I didn't ridicule you, I gave you a suggestion. Send Reiss a request about getting the Patriots' grading for Sanders.
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    Hey man. Don't ya think that the poor microphone has been through enough. It's bad enough that the poor thing had to spend hours in such close proximity to Douche Jaskson's mouth, don't you think calling it a mole is piling on a little bit? :(
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