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    Barstool Sports: 10 Reasons the Patriots Can, Should and WILL Get Two 1st Round Draft Picks for Matt Cassel


    good read especially reason # 8
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    #9 for me. It's time to get that #1 back that was stolen from us last year.
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    The only part I would have to disagree with is the idea of Denver parting ways with Jay Cutler in order to land Cassel. I doubt Denver's FO is saying to themselves right now "We'd be much better off with Cassel than with Jay Cutler AND 2 first round picks."
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    I love this part...

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    Same here! When it finally DID load there were all these pics and ads that lay on top of most of the article. I didn't see anyplace to click to get rid of them either :(
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    Same here, it sucks
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    Tell me about it... that was an UNBELIEVABLE off-season.
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    With Tom back and all these high draft picks.....I have a feeling we are gonna be ballin next season.
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    I would have to agree with you my friend. Where was this article when I was defending the positions to trade Cassel would be good for us:rolleyes:. Great read and well thought out and I like #9 the best myself.

    Bottom line is we have a successful QB who have at least 10 team interested so we are sitting pretty. Why pay a top 5 pick QB big bucks when you can get a young QB going into his prime for the same or less money but has starts under his belt. Two firsts is a good start.....and yes I am greedy and BB is too.
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    maybe a 1 and 3 not two 1's

    sorry wont happen
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    They are going to have a ton of draft picks. If they want to, the Pats can get anybody they want in the draft. Anybody they sign in FA is a bonus. I think this offseason will be the best offseason since '03.
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    Have to agree... IF we got two #1s for Cassel, that would be brilliant. I understand the concept of a bidding war, but there are limits. To be honest, a #1 and a #3 would be more than fair - and I have to think it's more realistic.

    But... there are some CRAZY GMs out there !
    (1) You paid how much for Jamarcus Russell ?!&!&?!
    (2) You're drafting ANOTHER wr ?
    (3) Williams for a #1 and a #3 ?

    Hahahaha !
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    I've always believed we could get a #1 and a #3 for Matt, but this article is very convincing. Maybe, just maybe we could get a couple of #1's?
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    If we got two #1's it would be the exact opposite feeling from our Superbowl or Brady's hit
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    Great article! It pretty much made my day.
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    2 #1's wont happen, and get it out of your head. You never know, crazy **** happens but the Patriots would be absolutely bending a team backwards in that scenario. I think it'd be understandable giving up this years first for a proven guy, but the next 2 years? Hell, a 1st and 2nd is more likely and it's even still a long shot. We'll see, we never know whats going on with the NFL.

    But I do find that part he said about the extra time in the offseason intriguing, it raises a fair point. Since 2003, the quickest this team went to the offseason has been in the divisional round. They've had a a whole extra month to scout future FA's, prospects, etc. Giving a guy like Bill a minute extra is bad enough, it'll be interesting to see if an an extra month will breed the same success it did before. I'm not expecting 2x 14-2 champs, but at least one title would be nice :D
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    A well done article which touches on a theme I wrote a thread about last month - the 'success' rate (took their team to the playoffs at least once) of 1st QB's is barely 60%, the ones that become stars is about equal to those that bombed completely 33%!!! This is for the last 15 years.

    So, for teams insistent on drafting a 1st round QB, it takes most teams two 1st rounders to hit on a winner. You can get Cassel for lower pick value - a 1 and 3 would do it I believe - and less money than a top ten would cost (plus, you could sign Cassel to a shorter deal) all the while getting a much more known commodity. Of course this is the kind of logic GM's specialize in ignoring.

    I think the Pats will blink first in these trade talks because there's no way they really want both Cassel and Brady under the cap at the same time.
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    The Vikings gave up a 1 and 3 for DE Allen, the Cowboys gave up a 1 and 3 for WR Williams... so a 1 and 3 isn't crazy for Cassel as a starting base for negotiations, and once a team is willing to do a 1 and 3, it's pretty easy to justify outbidding for Cassel, having him sign, and just giving the Pats two 1st rounders in order to take power out of the Pats' hands.
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    Hope he's right.

    Definitely a webpage that I will return to in the future...to read the articles, of course.
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    This would feel a lot more possible to me if Green Bay needed a QB right now (you could argue they do, but I think they're happy with Rodgers for now). If you could get Chicago and Green Bay into a bidding war, you just might get one of them to bite on the two 1st's.

    I just don't see the same rivalry between the other NFC North teams, not to that level anyway. You might get something between Chicago and Minny since they both probably feel they're just missing that one big piece to be a contender.

    I don't see the Lions giving up two 1st's in any scenario. They have to feel like they need more help than just a QB.
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    Remember, an 09 1st plus a 10 1st is equivalent to a 091st plus 09 2nd. It isn't that outrageous a price to ask for.
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    Hmmm... there's an idea for a new startup league. Call it the DDFL (Double Down Football League). Make a few rules that make it more difficult for a single QB-offense to make yardage, but then, on each play, the offense chooses which of the two "plays" to keep.

    Or better yet... put both teams on offense, each with one of the balls and call it the PFL (Psycho Football League). The team with the better results on each play advances the ball. No kneeling down or spiking the ball permitted.
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    Bumping this to give a little more attention to Jerry Thornton. I've linked before--every Monday during the season he does a "knee-jerk reactions" column about that week's game that's as good or better than any other X & Os breakdown you'll find anywhere. Better, really, considering most sportwriting is nonsense about personalities and whether Randy Moss is trying hard enough. And he's funny too. Stuff doesn't get much attention because it's on Barstool Sports which has a lot of NSFW girl pix. (Although I know Felger has referenced the site and Chad Finn plugs it as well.) Anyway, well worth checking out.
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    If he's franchised quickly, and is the first QB available for negotiations, I think we'll see two firsts happen as a team may feel they have to "steal" him to get him away from the Pats.
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    Seriously. That was the stupidest trade I've seen this season. If Detroit can get a 1st and a 3rd for Roy 'lockerroom cancer' Williams, the Pats should at LEAST get that much for Cassel. I don't really think we'll get two 1st rounders but that was a funny article and it's nice to dream about it.
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